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[–] rasakaf679@lemmy.ml 82 points 7 months ago (3 children)

One 10-15 sec ad for an 5-10 mins video would be fair. Because if you calculate the ad shown in Cable TV it was similar I would watch them no problem. But NOOO these greedy fckrs want 3-5 ads of >15secs unskipable ads shoved down our throats. They have record profits. In a business if you are in profit then it's a good thing. But these fcks want to increase profit year by year, not stable profit for the number of users. That want infinite growth and profit from a finite source and they crazy or what? So if anyone says blocking ads on YouTube is piracy, then fck you and those greedy fckrs. They crossed the limit long time ago and they are reaping what they had sowed.

[–] Ginger666@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No amount of ads are "fair"

I'm done wasting my life for other people.

Go ahead tho, you do you boo

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm done wasting my life for other people.

I do enough of that at work as it is. I'll be fucked if I do it during my downtime, too.

[–] Ginger666@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago
[–] lledrtx@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (4 children)

How do you propose YouTube should pay for infrastructure costs (servers, Internet etc), staff costs (engineers, designers, moderators) and the content creators?

[–] Ginger666@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Have a paid service that doesn't have adverti...

Oh wait...

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Google Ads on the webpages of all the webpages on the Internet, similar to their status quo.

I don't think any of us should be concerned about Google's cash flow. It's their job.

[–] lledrtx@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying that the ads shouldn't be video ads but webpage ads, instead?

It's their job.

Yeah, exactly why they are enforcing anti-adblock rules...

[–] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 0 points 7 months ago

If this is how Youtube advertised, I wouldn't block the ads. I refuse to sit through ads when I'm searching through videos and I don't even know if the video is the one I want to watch. It's going to take a three minute search into a 10 minute search.

[–] bigMouthCommie@fe.disroot.org 0 points 7 months ago

stop paying executives and shareholders. liquidate assets. I don't care.

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I would've been fine paying if the price reflected what I was actually paying for (not being advertised to) which would be <$0.005 per viewed video (let's be generous and call it 1 or 2$/mo) but noo they have to ask for 25$/month like greedy little shits.

[–] lledrtx@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

That price wouldn't even begin to cover it. Infrastructure is expensive at that quality. Engineers to maintain such infrastructure are also expensive. Content creators make a ton of money too. Their profits are much lower compared to peers - https://mannhowie.com/youtube-valuation

Also, 22$/month gets you a family plan for 5 people so wtf are you talking about?

I don't give 2 shits about YouTube, I use ad block where I can too. I'm just saying that people who complain about YouTube's anti-adblock stuff are being unrealistic, you can't fault them for trying to block people from stealing from them.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They’re publicly traded, they have to. Thats not an excuse mind you, but if you ever like a service and they go public, just understand the end users are no longer the focus.

[–] exanime@lemmy.today 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Being publicly traded does not force companies to become greedy, immoral scum... Stop spreading this piece of misinformation

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/04/16/what-are-corporations-obligations-to-shareholders/corporations-dont-have-to-maximize-profits

PS: this goes hand in hand with the "you got to be an asshole to succeed"... You don't, the problem is that most people can't find anything else to imitate

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn’t force them legally, but it does effectively guide their behavior. There are a lot of things in this world we aren’t legally forced to do, but still have to do to participate in society. It’s not misinformation, it’s just the reality. It’s true that you don’t have to be an asshole to succeed, but it’s also true that you don’t have to go public to succeed either.

[–] exanime@lemmy.today 3 points 7 months ago

Not even.... If the entire point was to maximize profit for shareholders, we would see you he obscene compensation packages for C-suite execs or ridiculously luxurious perks for board members, etc

This has just been the excuse to do away with ethics and morals.... And repeating this is "the way it has to be" just makes it easier for them

[–] piskertariot@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Television shows are 22-24 minutes, because cable TV should show 6-8 minutes of ads every half hour. 30 second ads in blocks of 3 or 4, multiple times per show.

15 seonds ads are almost too short for a trip to the kitchen. I'm not saying they're good, but if you want to compare to cable TV, you need to remember the dark times.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Star Trek TOS episodes (1 hour show) were about 52 minutes long, with 8 minutes for commercials. By the time of TNG, episodes were down to 42 minutes. I regularly see ads every 5-6 minutes on YouTube.

Businesses never understand that it's THEIR obnoxious, sh*tty advertising that kills something profitable, and when it finally dies, it's surprised Pikachu faces all around.