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I asked if people chose iPhone for the blue bubbles elsewhere a couple days ago, and while there was some good discourse on that post, the blue bubbles definitely also came up as a reason.

In my experience, when people find out my texts are green, they oftentimes would rather switch to a different platform altogether like Instagram or just not text at all.

Is this actually a deal-breaker in friendships out there?

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[–] Froody@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People that buy Apple are some of the most superficial beings on this planet.

Who gives a fuck about text bubbles?

Find friends that aren't so shallow.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it's literally about the color. It's that SMS has no features. I don't like talking to people over SMS either. I like modern chat platforms, like Signal and Telegram, that support reactions, high-quality media, receipts, encryption, etc.

[–] Chr0nos1@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Android is switching over to RCS where available, as long as you use the Google Messages app. The default app on a lot of phones don't support it, but all major carriers in the US do support it. RCS is far superior to MMS or SMS. RCS also supports reactions, receipts, etc, though I'm unsure about whether or not it supports high quality media, but I do know that I've had no issues getting good pictures texted to me from other Android users who have RCS. If apple would follow suit, this would be a non issue, but Apple refuses to play ball, so they can use it as a marketing tactic. I'd bet that if they opened up iMessage to Android, there would be a whole lot of people adopting it, just so we're all on the same page, but yet again, Apple refuses to play nice. This entire thing is Apple's fault for wanting to keep iPhone users in a walled garden.

I wouldn't say Android is switching, I'd say Google is switching. There's no support in Android itself. Third-party SMS apps cannot hook into RCS. There's limited carrier support. Google is running the RCS relay, and it's only at the app level, not the OS level. This might seem like an academic distinction to some people, but certainly not to the billion or so users in China, anyone who likes third-party apps, or anyone who prefers deGoogled Android OSes.

Most carriers still don't support RCS themselves, Apple would need to build their own relay like Google did.

RCS itself is not necessarily E2E encrypted, though Google has hacked that on top if you use their app. This is not an improvement over other closed systems like iMessage. It's just another closed system.

And because it's Google, the left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing. Doesn't work on Google Fi or Google Voice, last I checked.

You couldn't pay me to adopt another Google messaging platform after they've jerked me around endlessly with g-chat/Hangouts/Duo/Voice. I'll use RCS when it's truly open and standard. As long as Google is the gatekeeper, I'm out.

The whole system is a mess, largely thanks to Google's mismanagement.

[–] DuncanTDP@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just know that those 12 people who down voted this are also some of those superficial beings. Like really? Grow up, the products you use shouldn't have any effect on your ability to be friends with someone. I find it extremely hard to believe that their are full grown adult human beings that believe this is.

[–] Froody@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You make the choices you make, that includes the people you interact with.

I prefer not to interact with paper thin personalities that buy Apple products.