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[–] Moonrise2473@lemmy.ml 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Isn't the opposite?

Saving in downloads on Android doesn't need additional storage permissions, so apps will save in the big "trash can" downloads folder

Instead, who the fuck knows where iOS saved that file, where every app is sandboxed and isolated

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The worst is when an android app is clearly an iOS port. E.g Patreon app saves all files under a generic name rather than the one you get when saving the same file from a browser, because I guess on iOS it just goes into your camera reel without a filename anyway. Or how Bluesky app just straight up says "saved to your camera reel" and puts it in your DCIM folder, with no option to specify a different location.

[–] aulin@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

The worst is when an android app is clearly an iOS port.

This always means there are zero settings. If there's no way of configuring the app, I find an alternative. There are few things more frustrating than software that assumes one size fits all.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

IOS has a files app where saved files go

Basically the same as your download directory

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah lol I love how this commenter is mad about apps being sandboxed. There’s a downloads folder in the files app, or apps can have their own virtual filesystems, also accessible within the files app. Stupid iOS and ensuring that apps can’t just write to wherever they want on the filesystem

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, you can't write wherever you want on Android, either. For example, you can't write to most of the files in /Android ~~unless you use one of the many, many exploits to do so~~ since it's basically a protected system area.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That’s fair, I was more concerned with someone getting mad at increased security like sandboxing is a bad thing

[–] HumanPenguin@lemmy.cafe 1 points 9 months ago

He was more mad at the app developers for not putting effort into mzking the android port appropriate for android. And the fact that they don't bother providing common needed functions for android apps. Like configurable settings.

Im not an expert on either as I tend to be a linux pc developer.

But user accounts is the way linux handles a program having its own space. Andriod has def made a choice from the begging not to have, and now to limit. The multi user part of linux. Assigning a user and group account to programs. Works great as a way of limiting programs ability to interfere with files of other programs without su access to allow the approval of only assess to those approved.

So I agree android makes a bad choice to ignore any extra protection.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, any save prompt using it often defaults to iCloud shit.

[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 3 points 9 months ago

You can sorta change that default, but Apple sure loves to bury that particular setting. And occasionally forgets it.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago

I wouldn’t know because I don’t have that enabled

[–] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

True, the folder is pretty easy to find and always the same.

Although the big problem is how quickly that folder can get messy.

Mine is filled with so much pdf files that i never want to sort, sometimes there's duplicates because i didn't want to scroll to find the first one so i downloaded it a second time.