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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

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Building an early warning system for LLM-aided biological threat creation (openai.com)

submitted 9 months ago by sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

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OpenAI blog post: https://openai.com/research/building-an-early-warning-system-for-llm-aided-biological-threat-creation

Orange discuss: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39207291

I don't have any particular section to call out. May post thoughts ~~tomorrow~~ today it's after midnight oh gosh, but wanted to post since I knew ya'll'd be interested in this.

Terrorists could use autocorrect according to OpenAI! Discuss!

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[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

[Datalog] is equivalent to tuple relational calculus

Well, Prolog also allows recursion, and is Turing complete, so it's not as rudimentary as you make it out to be.

But to anyone even passingly familiar with theoretical CS this is nonsense. Prolog is not "reasoning" in any deeper sense than C is "reasoning", or that your pocket calculator is "reasoning". It's reductive to the point of absurdity, if your definition of "reason" includes Prolog then the Brainfuck compiler is AGI.

[–] self@awful.systems 2 points 9 months ago

Datalog is specifically a non-TC subset of Prolog with a modified evaluation strategy that guarantees queries always terminate, though I was being imprecise — it’s the non-recursive subset of Datalog that’s directly equivalent to TRC (though Wikipedia shows this by mapping Datalog to relational algebra, whereas I’d argue the mapping between TRC and Datalog is even easier to demonstrate). hopefully my imprecision didn’t muddy my point — the special sauce at Prolog’s core that folks seem to fetishize is essentially ordinary database shit, and the idea of a relational database having any kind of general reasoning is plainly ridiculous.