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Following his trial for defamation of the families of the children and school staff killed in the Sandy Hook massacre, conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is using Valve Corp.’s Steam, the world’s largest digital distribution platform for PC games, to sell an Infowars-themed video game. Jones claims to have earned hundreds of thousands in revenue from the video game, yet he has refused to pay the Sandy Hook families. Alex Jones: NWO Wars also mirrors and cartoonishly repackages the conspiracy theorist’s regularly violent, hateful rhetoric despite the platform’s policies against hate speech.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 216 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I mean, why aren't his assets seized and bank accounts frozen at this point?

Or is it only the poor that have to pay their fines?

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The court is trying. He’s just playing a lot of games. Lots of the money is held by his parents or hidden in different shell companies. The court established that he and InfoWars are basically the same thing as far as the money is concerned, so he’s been trying to start new shows and businesses to further complicate things.

Court orders don’t automatically happen or always get enforced. Going through a divorce right now - lawyer told me that even if I do get an order that some of the shared debts are paid, he can just not. I’d have to go back to court and still get dinged on my credit.

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

If you're poor though they just put you in jail while they figure that stuff out. If they figure it out.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's honestly just worse if true. How is this not criminal? He doesn't go to jail unless the state is what he's ripped off? You know, the one by the people for the people?

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The 1st Amendment presents a very high bar for criminal prosecution of speech.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

A bar over which he took off into fucking orbit! It's 100% because of rich, famous, right wing white guy privilege that he isn't in prison right now.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

On the contrary, the more unpopular the speech, the higher the bar.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's unpopular and then there's "no way someone without his immense privilege could ever get away with saying the exact same things without being tried in criminal court."

This is without a doubt the latter.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There isn't even a criminal law to charge them with.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

How about harassment? Inciting violence? Reckless endangerment?

His disgusting crusade against the parents were undoubtedly all of those things and more.

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They will not. This is a civil case its not like he owes the IRS. Man you said that so confidently and its got like 20 upvotes while being so clearly and easily serachable to be proved completely false. Lol this thread is full of morons

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It may not apply to this case, but it certainly does apply in a wide way.

There is also this.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are lots of ways to hide money and protect your assets, and many of them perfectly legal.

Lot of it stems from laws made to protect regular people in debt (bankruptcy laws, getting rid of debtors prison, etc) but people with money use them too

Imo it's a worthwhile price. Otherwise credit cards would just take money straight from your wages if they could.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not when one of his victims has terminal cancer and can't cash out because Jones is playing keep away through the courts.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

The problem is, shitty people are always going to abuse the laws. The goal, or at least the purported goal, is to minimize how many people get hurt when the law is abused.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because America is entirely broken.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago

He's jumping through all the hoops rich folks use to hide their money, which means the courts have to jump through the hoops to get at it, and the court system is slow by comparison.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sad when you realized who wrote the rules. Fairness is a dream.