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[–] filoria@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Friendly reminder that the 1.7 ton HIMARS-launched ATACMS missile has a range of 310km. Belgorod is about 40km from the Ukrainian border and 80km from Kharkiv. The Vilkha MLRS that the MoD claimed that Ukraine used to strike Belgorod has a range of 130km with R624M rockets.

Your sources are misinformed.

[–] ptelder@beehaw.org 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Vilkha MLRS

Neutral (?) reminder that my question was about what details your "Mossad" account on X was providing. You appear to have pivoted to the Russian MoD as a source, which to put it kindly, has not had the best record for truth and accuracy in this conflict.

If a Vikha was indeed used, the bomblet carriage should have survived and would be a very difficult to deny piece of evidence. I haven't seen anything yet to confirm one was recovered though.

Using cluster munitions on an essentially civilian target would be a serious change in tactics for Ukraine, and give Russia's allies in the US Congress a clear reason to drop support. That doesn't mean they couldn't have screwed up their targeting, or had a missile intercepted though, so I'd love to see any actual evidence.

[–] filoria@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Your claim is that Ukraine doesn't have anything in their inventory with the capability to strike Belgorod with that degree of damage. I categorically disproved that by pointing to the HIMARS and Vilkha systems, both of which are currently possessed and operated by the AFU.

Edit: this is commonly known as "shifting the goalposts."