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    submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
     

    They work better in Linux than Windows, not to mention backwards compatibility.

    EDIT: I may be wrong about newest printer models, 2020 and above.

    EDIT2: Hardware problems are an entirely different issue.

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    [–] AbsurdityAccelerator@lemmy.world 142 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I swear my 3d printer is more reliable than my paper printer.

    [–] EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    At least if my 3d printer breaks I can fix it.

    [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 33 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I am wondering why there is no open framework for laser printing.

    There are a few parts that would have to be made out of sheet metal. The sides could be stamped for the same pattern. You then need a back and a cross section. One could theoretically make them from ABS, but ABS gets brittle with heat and the sides will shatter.

    One side of the printer is dedicated to running an ARM SOC. I'm not sure if the Arduino is up to the task, but it will need to control 3 motors, initiate a heating sequence, start a rasterizing laser, interpret a print job, communicate over network and USB, and monitor a bunch of sensors.

    The hardest parts will be obtaining print cartridges, rollers, and fusers. Designing a standard to run off a certain vendor's hardware will be a pile of issues, and nobody will just start manufacturing hardware for a handful of hobbyist printers.

    Everything else is 3d printing, springs, and screws.

    [–] GTG3000@programming.dev 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Well, cartridges, rollers, and fusers are the important bits that can't easily be manufactured by hand. And that's a big part of the price of the printer.

    You can't really make them cheaper than mass-manufacture, and laser printers are already almost bulletproof from my experience.

    [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 7 points 11 months ago

    You are right. I think I rubber-ducked myself to the same conclusion.

    [–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    ~~cartridges~~

    Bottles are simpler.

    [–] GTG3000@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 11 months ago

    No, not there.

    [–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I am wondering why there is no open framework for laser printing.

    Besides the reasons already mentioned most people who would be interested in bleeding edge tinkering probably have moved on from paper at this point.

    [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 5 points 11 months ago

    Good point. Most people hate printing anyway.

    [–] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    2d printers need to be a lot more precise. 300dpi means each dot is placed with less than a tenth of a mm, and that's not even particularly impressive for a 2d printer. 3d printers get away with a lot more slop than that.

    That's only talking about greyscale. Color requires precise alignment of the cartridges for at least 4 base colors (higher end photo printers have even more) , and the mix of those colors must be carefully controlled to get accurate output.

    [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 4 points 11 months ago

    Yeah, that is one of the big problems I was considering. Even monochrome at 300 DPI would be a problem. The imaging array and drum would need to be manufactured separately and installed as whole unit.

    [–] jas0n@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

    At least it only needs to be precise if the register is adjustable. You would need some tiny stepper motors right? I'm not familiar with how register is adjusted on desktop printers, but I know it can be.

    [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

    I too own an HP

    [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Let's go back to stone tablets. Only instead of stone, it's plastic and resin.

    "Here's my report." Slaps what appears to be 100 fast food trays down on the desk

    [–] adhocfungus@midwest.social 11 points 11 months ago

    My cheap old 3D printer requires constant fiddling before and after every print, yet still fails probably half the time. I avoid printing things sometimes just because I don't want to deal with it.

    I would still agree with you 100%. I hate my HP printer so much.