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[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This is a weird story, just because it takes place in front a backdrop of widespread child death and social collapse.

The thing is, it's STILL a tragedy. It just feels odd. Like reporting "American soldier from Illinois drowns during operation in Normandie" or "Woman killed in vehicular accident outside Bartertown".

Like... that's terrible, but they're in the midst of complete social collapse. There's no food or water, and also a kid dies in Gaza every 15 minutes. So again, it's really heartbreaking that this kind -- Ahmed Bracha -- died. It's just hard to figure how one writes an article about this particular child dying while apparently trying to get food among so many corpses of children trying to get food.

There needs to be a ceasefire. The siege must end. Hostages on both sides need to go home. This is truly atrocious.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-islamic-jihad-reject-giving-up-power-return-permanent-ceasefire-egyptian-2023-12-25/

CAIRO, Dec 25 (Reuters) - Hamas and the allied Islamic Jihad have rejected an Egyptian proposal that they relinquish power in the Gaza Strip in return for a permanent ceasefire, two Egyptian security sources told Reuters on Monday.

Neither side wants a ceasefire

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I reject the framing of "Neither side": there are not two sides, there are many.

First, I think what you mean is that the Netanyahu government and Sinwar's Hamas don't want a ceasefire. And technically, it's more accurate to say that neither side wants a ceasefire along the terms offered by the other.

Secondly, though, I don't support either of these two parties. I didn't say "there needs to be a ceasefire when Hamas and Likud feel like it". Both sides are currently run by war criminals, and the matter shouldn't be in their hands.

I'm an American Jew, and my primary interest is compelling my president and government to stop providing material/logistical/political support for genocide. I want conditions on aid to Israel, and a formal declaration that the US position is that the war has gone far beyond securing Israel's safety and is clearly destabilizing the security of Israel, the US, and the region (not to mention Palestinian noncombatants). And if Netanyahu and Sinwar don't like it, that's good because their interests are diametrically opposed to mine.