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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (17 children)

Addiction is NOT a disease. Sorry, but your choice do heroin does not get to go into the same category as a child with cancer.

You asked for your problem, they didn’t.

EDIT: This NOT up for debate. I answered OP in good faith. I’m not here to discuss/debate my stance.

[–] smooth_jazz_warlady@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

So you don't care that the majority of people who abuse drugs are doing it to self-medicate something, be that pain, depression from the state of their life, or an undiagnosed neurological condition?

(Adderall is just a dilute relative of meth, and so has similar effects on ADHD brains, i.e. makes us more functional. Also, there is research showing that cannabis has a positive effect on autistic brains, which would explain why so many autistic people I know love their greenery. Plus, anecdotes from fellow ADHDers of "I microdose weed because it helps me focus better, and it's easier to get than legal adderall")

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca -4 points 11 months ago (6 children)

No. I don’t care. A junkie is a junkie. Having a neurological condition doesn’t give you an excuse to get whacked out on meth 7 days a week. CANCER is a disease. Addiction is NOT.

I say this as someone with ADHD and ASD, and as a person who lost a friend to addiction this year.

JUNKIES don’t have diseases. PERIOD.

[–] crumpted@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Both the NIH and DSM-5 would disagree.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK565474/table/nycgsubuse.tab9/

https://nida.nih.gov/publications/drugfacts/understanding-drug-use-addiction

I can find 10 people to say that ADHD isn't real for every 1 person who says substance use disorder isn't a disease.

Does that mean ADHD isn't a real condition?

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Am I disagree with them, which is what OP asked. Are you arguing with everyone here that disagrees with science, or just me?

[–] smooth_jazz_warlady@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Believing that the moon landing was a hoax, or that dark matter doesn't exist, is ultimately harmless. The same cannot be said of disagreeing with proven, helpful medical knowledge, in favour of a gut-feeling based alternative that only makes things worse. It is a moral imperative to make you realise you are wrong, or failing that, thoroughly demonstrate it to everyone watching, so your harmful ideas do not spread.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 months ago

My ideas are no more harmful than any other opinion here. I didn’t say it I don’t accept it as science, I simply said I disagree with it. As OP asked.

I answered in good faith that this is how I feel. I won’t apologize that it upset you. That’s your problem.

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