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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If Dems focused on what actually would curb the violence, and dropped guns. They'd sweep the elections for decades.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah this is how people get jaded or gets the conspiracy people out.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

One problem was that the CDC was banned from studying the causes of gun violence from 1997 until 2018 due to the Dickey Amendment. We should have had big studies done to see just what the problems were (I'm sure it's not just one) and what solutions might give the best results while infringing on people's rights the least. Instead, even studying why gun violence was a problem was banned.

Thankfully, the Dickey Amendment was clarified (but not repealed) and gun violence research is allowed. Still, the studies aren't allowed to call for gun control so they are still hobbled. So while new proposals based on studies can be made, gun control won't be one of them even if it would be effective.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

Our leadership has time and time again daid it's mental health, they know it. No research is needed. Just expand mental Healthcare before the Joker movie becomes a reality.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

No they where not, they weren't ever banned from studying gun violence. They just weren't allowed to use it as a way to sway public opinion...which is what the, at the time, acting leadership of the CDC wanted to do.

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's downright fantasy talk. Voters minds have been so poisoned that they don't give a shit about policy anymore. Republican politicians haven't had an actual platform for at least a decade.

Their platform is only to stimie any progress and protect the rich. They may say lots of words but one need only look at the way they vote and yet are still consistently reelected.

They say they'll fix things but never do even when they control both houses and the presidency. That should have been a republican free for all in 2016, but nothing of value happened for those two years. No immigration reform. No healthcare reform. No gun reform. Oh, but they did pass a tax reform bill and guess who that helped.

[–] oldbaldgrumpy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You said voters minds have been poisoned .. ... then went on a they they they rant proving your point. You get that, right?

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago

My rant illustrated my point, yes, but I don't think it's the gotcha that you seem to think it is.

My point is that people are voting for politicians who are actively working against many of their constituents interests. And they're tending to vote that way because they believe politicians' words instead of observing their actions.

If you care to refute any of my points, feel free.