Haven't seen a discussion post for the new special, so I'll get the ball rolling. Thoughts, insights, bits you loved... let it all out.
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It was alright but I didn't enjoy it as much as others seem to have done. Everything was so obvious. Donna tells her daughter that she will protect her so you know this will come in play later. The coffee thing was mentioned and I immediately knew she'll spill it. The way the "why Donna didn't die" was a bit resolved in a weird way, she is a woman so she can "let go" and give birth, which is so weird that the Doctor didn't think about this (he literally was a woman just before). Ultimately it doesn't make sense, someone passes a disease to their kid it doesn't mean that the disease is now weaker. That's not how inherited illnesses work. I love that there's a trans character but everything about her is just them saying that she is trans, I wanna know more about her and not just her sexuality. It was handled good in the conversation between Donna and her mother but then it went a bit overboard for my taste.
This is nonsense, and you only think this is the case because you were focusing on it so hard. Before we knew anything about her we saw that she was a bright, attractive, and canny kid who was interested in everything. Then we saw her shed and learned she made little stuffed creatures to sell for extra spending money, and we see she wants to help this weird creature rather than panicking and running as most people might. Later Donna says she does acting in the drama club but isn't very good at it. That's more than we learn about most secondary characters in a single episode.
I don't know you, so I don't know what your experience is and won't even venture to guess, but I can say from my own personal experience that people with trans or otherwise queer kids talk about it, especially with other parents. And it is sometimes quite a challenge for some, especially for older relatives to "get it", even when they want to do right by their family member.
No, it's not the only thing about Rose, but it is an important thing, especially when vast squelching chunks of society would rather not even acknowledge nonbinary and transgender people even exist. And I'm glad they were up front about it, rather than drawing it out and trying to be coy to the point of wanting to have it both ways.
Nah I agree with him. I missed it a but at first because I was only paying half attention but the whole "did you just assume the meeps pronouns" bit and the ending non binary stuff was very forced and clumsy and just distracting.
And I say that as the the stereotypical pink haired non binary gay feminist. Inclusion should be normalising making it a big deal and metaphorically winking down the camera does as much harm as good.
well it's not an inherited illness but yeah, the whole thing was "a human brain can't handle that much dumped into it" which is why she had to forget. Processor overload.
Yea I used illness as an analogy. Passing something down to your child doesn't necessarily mean it'll get weaker. But even when accepting this, I find the resolution unsatisfactory.
I fully understand yoir point of view, but could it also be because their minds are linked, at least in some way, so thay instead of being focused on just one there's two sharing the load, like, how a single core CPU could run something, but if you start doubling the cores, it makes it easier. Maybe if Rose had a child as well, that'd make it easier as well.
The metacrisis isn't an illness, it's is made-up space magic. RTD can put whatever rules he wants onto it. It makes a sort of sense (in a wibbly-wobbly sort of way) that a child would act as a sort of pressure release.
Them "letting it go" at the end was a bit of a silly copout, but I chalk it up to the DoctorDonna (and DoctorRose?) having capabilities the Doctor couldn't fathom alone. She/they just needed fifteen years or so to ruminate on it, like a complex calculation that takes years to compute.