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Yeah! And it helps that there is no karma here. We just give a hoot about preservation and sharing. :)
Even though it's meaningless I have seen some people in different communities voting down comments and posts they don't agree with like on Reddit which is unfortunate.
For the piracy community I hope it doesn't just turn into passive aggressive comments directing people to the megathread all the time.
I like helping people dig for obscure stuff
I’ll say I really only see downvoted for hugely unpopular or untrue opinions relating to the API stuff that happened over at reddit. Other than that everything mostly seems positive. I have stayed off political communities for the most part so far though.
That's my strategy too, but it seems like people just can't help themselves from dropping some political comment in non political discussions. It's so tiresome.
Sooo using the downvoted button for its intended use? I’ll never understand why people get mad when they use the dislike button for stuff they dislike lol
I don't think it's for what you don't "like" but whether it was correct or relevant to the topic. So upvotes push important and relevant info forward. But I could be wrong.
you're right according to official reddiquette. the intended use of the downvote button is to de-emphasize irrelevant content and content that otherwise doesn't contribute to the conversation
i have seen it argued that its intended use use doesn't matter versus how the majority of people actively use it, similar to language and symbols. usage evolves with time, so meaning evolves with it. personally i prefer the intended usage but i can see where ppl who make this argument are coming from.
the lemmy instance i joined doesn't have a downvote button at all!
edit: here's the official reddiquette archived on the wayback machine
Your average reddit user stopped reading at the words "take a moment". Sad, but true.
tbh, i'd be surprised if most people ever even bothered to even open the reddiquette or terms of service or anything else. i'm not trying to put anyone down or be condescending -- i didn't read any of this when signing up either! i only knew about it because i read discussions about how votes should be used on reddit lol
it's true, most people are lazy and don't read and intuitively assume the downvote button is a dislike button. it's unfortunate, but i don't know if anything can reasonably be done about stuff like that because i don't think it's going to change that people don't read agreements or rules or guidelines before using a platform or program or service.
Original function and concept was to use the downvote exclusively as a spam filter. There's a reason those "I only work 5 hours a week and make 6 figures" posts you see on Instagram never happened on Reddit. They all got buried and hidden at the bottom
I don't think it's for what you don't "like" but whether it was correct or relevant to the topic. So upvotes push important and relevant info forward. But I could be wrong.
I know what you’re saying, but I feel like it does both tbh
Don't you think things might become muddled if it serves both purposes? How often do you see people on Reddit admitting they were wrong or compromising versus arguing and when one side concedes just downvoting the other persons comments?
On a sidenote one thing that bugged me about Reddit was people making a comment that agreed with another comment but added nothing but still getting up votes because people agree with it. For example "This" with nothing else.
Think a large part of it is context driven and what kind of community it is. I know in more serious threads, more helpful information was usually upvoted. But I get you, Reddit (the default subreddits especially) got too big for its own good and became the muddied groupthink mess it is today, and I definitely agree that those kinds of comments add nothing to a discussion. I suppose one kind of solution here would be to implement the boosting system like they have at kbin and have that as some "helpful/insightful" button, but I don't think people in general would agree to one standard just like that. They're more likely going to keep doing what they're used to, and that's the voting system. Not sure how to really tackle the problem myself 😅
Def agree a
boostbutton would make more sense and makes the intended purpose clear. At the end of the day I really only care that useful and insightful comments float up to the top.This
That
If you go to a subreddit without custom css on old.reddit and hover over the downvote button you'll be told to only use it for things that "don't add to the discussion".
Joke's on them, my instance doesn't have a downvote button, downvotes don't affect me in the slightest :P
That's beehaw right <.< Quick curiosity, does that extend to other instances for you? Or can you still downvote as long as it's not on a community within your own instance? I didn't make my own account there, but I read the explanation for no downvoting and I felt like it made a lot of sense.
No, it's lemmy.blahaj.zone. :)
Can't downvote, and downvotes don't affect my experience in any way. Top is sorted by raw upvotes. If someone downvotes, it's the same as if they didn't vote at all to me.
I love it!
Ah yeah, I guess I could have checked the rest of your profile name lol. That's very cool! It's really making me think more about which instance I wanna stick with as a primary.
I haven’t downvoted a single thing since joining here. I feel like all I did on Reddit was downvote, there was just a deluge of irritating nothing-comments and posts there. There’s such better discussion here. I’ve already discovered some awesome stuff (like movie-web.app, holy shit) and had some great advice from nice folks about where to go for information on stuff I wanna do.
I hate to say it, but I think the relative inaccessibility of Lemmy makes the community wholly better. Reddit’s decline really began when any cunt with shit views could easily download their app, make an account in two seconds, and spew hate all over. Before that, it was just nerds like me who sat at their computer all day to chat.
Unfortunately I feel like that hate and those shitty views are going to spread here soon. I've already seen some people unnecessarily gate keeping over niche topics which is one thing but there's also hateful communities. I can block them but another always seems to spring up.
I hope Lemmy never adds karma, or an aggregate score, or anything like that. The up/down votes on posts and comments are good enough.
Some third party apps add up the score and I hate it. Hoping they all add a setting to hide it.
I don’t mind a score, I’m just so happy there’s no fucking awards here. Those were such a plague, and I was so happy Apollo let me turn them off.
I never understood the karma thing... guess I'm old school - post to help others where you can and let that be the "karma" you are known for.
It sure does, that's one of the nicest things.