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A voter-approved Oregon gun control law violates the state constitution, a judge ruled Tuesday, continuing to block it from taking effect and casting fresh doubt over the future of the embattled measure.

The law requires people to undergo a criminal background check and complete a gun safety training course in order to obtain a permit to buy a firearm. It also bans high-capacity magazines.

The plaintiffs in the federal case, which include the Oregon Firearms Federation, have appealed the ruling to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The case could potentially go all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

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[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

your only solution to all this is to disarm the people most likely to be targeted by these fascists?

Do you have a head injury? My solution is to not arm the white supremacists, even if it inconveniences gun owners.

Meanwhile, your solution is to enthusiastically arm white supremacists over and over again and when they gun down as many, blame the victims for not carrying a gun with them at all times.

How is anyone supposed to believe you're not a white supremacist or simp to the gun lobby?

I guess it's true what they say... the only thing fascism really needs to flourish is a bunch of liberals to furrow the ground for them.

They seem to be flourishing well enough with their AR-15s and your no-strings-attached support.

If you have the solution, why isn't it solved? Go out and shoot somebody and fix it.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My solution is to not arm the white supremacists,

Feel free to explain how you will be disarming white supremacism's most enduring institution - ie, the police.

Meanwhile, your solution is to enthusiastically arm white supremacists over and over again

They are already armed - to the teeth. They are literally armed with your tax dollars.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then why aren't you shooting them? Why isn't this solved if you have the solution to this problem that's life or death for so many people?

Is it because your solution doesn't work? Is it because you want other people to do the dying and life imprisonment? Or is it because you only want to point to the problem to drum up gun sales?

There's no possible out from here that makes you a good person, let alone a hero.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then why aren’t you shooting them?

This isn't an 80s action movie, Clyde - come live in the real world for a while, won't you?

So you basically admit that you have no way of dealing with the most dangerous, most unaccountable, and most thoroughly funded white supremacist institution to ever exist - who, I should mention, have easy access to millions of firearms that they happily distribute to their fascist proxies no matter what your precious laws say.

that makes you a good person

Your toxic liberal feel-good morality means squat to me.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This isn't an 80s action movie, Clyde - come live in the real world for a while, won't you?

Oh so you're not going to fix the problem by shooting it now?

Sounds like you went limp the moment you had to offer actual steps for people to follow.

So you basically admit that you have no way of dealing with the most dangerous, most unaccountable, and most thoroughly funded white supremacist institution to ever exist

It's pretty clear your entire plan is "gun" and honestly, that's already being too kind to it. You can't even connect your fantasy to reality, let along make it happen.

Your toxic liberal feel-good morality means squat to me.

Of course it doesn't, you're a self-absorbed fuckwit who expects other people to die for their hobby and hero fantasies. I never expected any different.

I just didn't want your bullshit propaganda infecting anyone with a mind worth changing because the sooner people see through it, the sooner the problem can be fixed.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which part of...

This isn’t an 80s action movie, Clyde

...didn't you get the first time around?

It’s pretty clear your entire plan is “gun” and honestly,

So, again... you have no way of dealing with the most dangerous, most unaccountable, and most thoroughly funded white supremacist institution to ever exist.

Good chat, liberal... it's always good to be reminded that your ilk will, at best, not raise a finger to stop the fascists - and, at worst, you will be actively aiding and abetting them.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still waiting to hear what you've solved with your guns, the thing you're repeatedly claiming is the solution that makes all the mass murder worth it.

At this point, it's clear you can't actually explain how your solution works.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still waiting to hear

...and again - you have no way of dealing with the most dangerous, most unaccountable, and most thoroughly funded white supremacist institution to ever exist.

your solution

You are not entitled to solutions if you are unwilling to even admit to the problem, liberal.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are not entitled to solutions if you are unwilling to even admit to the problem, liberal.

Hurl all the shit-tier insults you want but nothing is more neoliberal than putting profits before people's lives, then when none of your promises come true, blaming people for not giving them enough money.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

nothing is more neoliberal than ~~putting profits before people’s lives,~~ preventing people from resisting fascism.

FTFY, liberal.