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For fucks sake. This division could lead to the momentum folks causing the labour party to split into factionalism again and lose the upcoming GE. Starmer isn't going to be able to do much to affect any ceasefire or literally anything in the conflict whilst in opposition, but if the Tories squeeze out another 5 years the UK will be in a dire dire state. Keep your eyes on the fucking goal.
I'd be absolutely stunned if Labour found a way to lose the next GE based on a foreign policy issue.
I'm also not sure how voting for a ceasefire in a conflict that's seen over 11,000 dead civilians in a month can be construed as a bad thing.
Had Starmer not ordered his MPs to abstain I'm going to assume there would be significantly more than the 50 or so who voted with this motion.
The goal is moral and ideological purity, right? Right?
Actually I'm torn like most lefties on this. I see the constant self-damage in the Labour Party's tendency to split into ideological factions. But I also admire people who are principled enough to quit their jobs because they can't accept this implicit support for a horrific military campaign. It's the old, difficult question of whether to dissent silently (and ineffectively?) from the inside or openly (and ineffectively?) from the outside.
And yes, if the Tories win the next election I can't imagine the state the country will be in a few years later.