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The human species has topped 8 billion, with longer lifespans offsetting fewer births, but world population growth continues a long-term trend of slowing down, the US Census Bureau said Thursday.

The bureau estimates that the global population exceeded the threshold on 26 September, though the agency said to take this precise date with a grain of salt.

The United Nations estimated the number was passed 10 months earlier, having declared 22 November 2022, the “Day of 8 Billion”, the Census Bureau pointed out in a statement.

The discrepancy is due to countries counting people differently — or not at all. Many lack systems to record births and deaths. Some of the most populous countries, such as India and Nigeria, haven’t conducted censuses in over a decade, according to the bureau.

While world population growth remains brisk, growing from 6 billion to 8 billion since the turn of the millennium, the rate has slowed since doubling between 1960 and 2000.

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] BellaDonna@mujico.org 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I find the idea that people actually think overpopulation is a non issue actually a threat to the survival of the human race, the overall biosphere, and the planet.

I'm not sure why this understanding changed, but it's a Western cultural perspective with the younger generation from what I can tell, it does not reflect reality.

Climate science, and history are a huge passion of mine, I'm beyond certain about this, and it seems impossible that so many people would be willfully ignorant to the point of denial about things so obvious and self evident.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I didn't realize you were certain, my bad

[–] BellaDonna@mujico.org -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish I could drive home the severity so you could internalize and understand it.

[–] lledrtx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Just because the problem is severe doesn't mean the cause is overpopulation. Your argument doesn't make sense.

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

I think overpopulation is a non-issue because I prefer to follow the data over my own intuition. And the data shows that population is already slowing and will peak without intervention.

And I think it's extraordinarily important to reiterate that point because of the extreme dangers of any attempt at population control to devolve into outright eugenics and genocide.

https://www.pop.org/overpopulation-myth/

The most effective and the only ethical means of population control is a combination of increasing the availability of birth control, providing family planning education, and reducing child mortality. Yes this needs to be part of our climate change solutions, we're doing this, and it's already working.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell me you want an excuse to commit genocide without telling me you want an excuse to commit genocide

[–] BellaDonna@mujico.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For Jesus sake, I'm talking about the long term survival of the human race and all species on the planet and you are trying to reduce this to some kind of political talking point.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do we reduce the population then? Do you have an answer other than genocide?

[–] BellaDonna@mujico.org 1 points 1 year ago

Of course there are solutions other than genocide, it all just comes down to the timescale available. I do unfortunately think that the situation is urgent now, but on a longer timescale it could look like China's one child policy, or programs with incentives for voluntary birth control access, maybe even sterilization.

There are lots of ways to solve this that range from completely or questionably moral, to socially responsible and planned. I care about the long term survival of the human race, and the rest of the planet, I could absolutely be talked into putting that far ahead of my own well-being depending on the circumstances.