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Our subscriptions mostly pay for the salesmen and the ads. They sell ads first, IT second. So I'm not gonna cry for RedHat. The image of the poor developers working in a cave, struggling to make money is only in our mind. They had a perfectly functional model but decided to sabotage some of it to try to squeeze even more money.

Operating expense, in thousands (2019,2018):

Sales and marketing 1,378,278 1,195,286

Research and development 668,542 578,330

General and administrative 304,766 239,316

Total operating expense 2,351,586 2,012,932

Let's stop talking about Fedora/redhat, we are literally doing their job for them, for free.

Oh, btw, their gross profit is mentioned here.

Gross profit (thousands) 2,863,818 2,488,664

Net income (thousands) 433,988 261,851

That's why I had such bad support experience, because they chose to hire sales people instead of engineers. You have a better chance of being hired by redhat if you are a salesman. It's as Steve Jobs said, when the sales people take the power in the company.

"If you were a ‘product person’ at IBM or Xerox: so you make a better copier or better computer. So what? When you have a monopoly market-share, the company’s not any more successful. So the people who make the company more successful are the sales and marketing people, and they end up running the companies. And the ‘product people’ get run out of the decision-making forums."


The core of their business is made by the open source community. If they need our help for something, it's from saving them from drowning into money.

We need to jump ship from redhat just like we did from reddit. This is also the perfect opportunity to think about technical solutions on how to use the fediverse to finance the developers of the open source community.

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[–] fr0g@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

I'd still rather see RedHat as one of the biggest kernel/linux contributors make that extra money than fucking Oracle, Amazon etc.

Also:

They sell ads first, IT second.

They sell ads? Source?

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I'd still rather see RedHat as one of the biggest kernel/linux contributors make that extra money than fucking Oracle, Amazon etc.

I'd rather step out of this dilemma and finance directly the people who write the code. If you look at the numbers and including the administrative staff, development is now roughly only 25% of the expense.

They sell ads? Source?

Their expense is 66% about pushing the product and 33% about making it. (not counting administrative stuff). I say let's throw our money at people who spend their time writing the code instead.

[–] funkyb@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I think what he meant was that means they're buying ads, not selling them.

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