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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Seeing as incel apologetics occasionally appear even in mainstream rat/ea outlets like slate star or shetl (nerds are an oppressed people unfairly stigmatized by the fairer sex, and other Good Guy grievances), one has to wander what the e/a calculus is in regards to doing the most good with your genitals.

Like, keeping your effective altruist higher-ups in peak effectiveness by shielding them from sexual frustration has got to be worth a few million billion far future simulated lives, at the trifling cost of a little of your time and some lube, right?

I can't imagine the peer pressure dynamics in such a dating environment to be too healthy.

[–] maol@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That famous shtetl "feminists attack nerds :((( because they're easy targets >:((" is worse in context . The blog post was about how Harvard were wrong to take down videos of physics lectures by a sexual harrasser they just sacked, because they were really good physics lectures you guys. And there were all these appalling comments that Scott didn't give any pushback to - instead, he lit into the one woman in the comments section. for suggesting that nerds commit sexual offences.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it was Walter Lewin of MIT, not Harvard

[–] maol@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

Think you're right, sorry

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago

I can’t imagine the peer pressure dynamics in such a dating environment to be too healthy.

No imagination required.

[–] Collectivist@awful.systems 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The incel apologetics posts at least tend to present themselves as one degree removed by being 'backlash to the backlash' (recent example), it's the comments that tend to get truly unhinged:

Nearly all of my sexual and relationship success involved an unmistakable element of RPing Neutral Evil.

But incels are defined by their failure to perform well in these games, and they usually have innate (genetic, personality defects) that make them easy targets for abuse (see what feminists like the ones quoted in this piece have to say about them).