this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2023
1830 points (94.0% liked)

Technology

59679 readers
3668 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Youtube let the other shoe drop in their end-stage enshittification this week. Last month, they required you to turn on Youtube History to view the feed of youtube videos recommendations. That seems reasonable, so I did it. But I delete my history every 1 week instead of every 3 months. So they don't get much from my choices. It still did a pretty good job of showing me stuff I was interested in watching.

Then on Oct 1, they threw up a "You're using an Ad Blocker" overlay on videos. I'd use my trusty Overlay Remover plugin to remove the annoying javascript graphic and watch what I wanted. I didn't have to click the X to dismiss the obnoxious page.

Last week, they started placing a timer with the X so you had to wait 5 seconds for the X to appear so you could dismiss blocking graphic.

Today, there was a new graphic. It allowed you to view three videos before you had to turn off your Ad Blocker. I viewed a video 3 times just to see what happens.

Now all I see is this.

Google has out and out made it a violation of their ToS to have an ad blocker to view Youtube. Or you can pay them $$$.

I ban such sites from my systems by replacing their DNS name in my hosts file routed to 127.0.0.1 which means I can't view the site. I have quite a few banned sites now.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is it enshittification, or how the Internet should work for commercial services? Youtube isn't publicly funded. You either pay for the product or become it in exchange for use.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any big tech company will both take your money and spy on your activities.

[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Unless they sign a business agreement with you that puts them in legal jeopardy of collecting/sharing/selling your information. This is a standard agreement between companies that use tech products and the companies that provide them.

[–] deong@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Exactly. Everyone complains about ad tech and enshittification until you point them to the conveniently located button that lets them pay for the service...

[–] Misconduct@startrek.website 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that's great and all until you realize that paying for services just allows them take your money and still also do whatever they want with your data lol. If I could give them money for a guarantee that they wouldn't collect or sell my data on top of that then...maybe. Probably not since I'd never trust Google to keep their word on that they're so slimy now.

[–] edenbenzaken@lemmy.org.il 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, I pay services such as Fastmail and Kagi monthly with no hesitation. Either I pay or I get spied on, what kinda lame ass deal is it if both happen?

[–] AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Microsoft did not like that

[–] mememuseum@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

These companies ran these services for years without any of this crap.

[–] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, even if you pay for the service, they still harvest you, which is double dipping. So...

[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You pay for the service to watch the videos. Or you watch the ads that advertisers pay Youtube to show to you. This concern about data harvesting is a side concern that isn't unique to Youtube. If you sign up for a free membership, mailing list, etc. from any place you shop (say, the grocery store to get their members' price discounts), you're allowing yourself to have your data mined and monetized.

You could watch Youtube without signing in.

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weird.

I haven't been paying for it since inception, nor do I watch its ads.

Yet it's been incredibly profitable for years.

[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Until recently, my buddy had been enjoying Netflix for going on 10 years, for free. No cost. Turns out he's just been using the service while I pay for it. So your situation is not weird, per se.