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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Do Novelists Need to Worry About AI? (In which I rant for entirely too long about Yudkowsky and his ilk.) (www.reddit.com)
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TL;DR:

I rant a bunch about how the silly eschatology of Yudkowsky and his cult have been hijacked by monopolistic corporate goons to push generative AI. Figured y'all might be interested.

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[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I finally got to reading this through after work and there’s so much good stuff in there! one thread I wanted to pick at in particular:

All of this AI doomer ideology being used? We can trace all of it back to the SFF community. To the delightful Singularity novels of the 80s, 90s, and naughts. (To their credit, all of the singularity fiction writers I've seen mention the topic are pretty repulsed by the Rationalists and their ilk.)

it’s really reassuring to see a science fiction and fantasy industry perspective on TESCREAL ideas alongside a deep dive into the history of how the rationalists took ideas they got from sci-fi and twisted them into a cult. to be honest, ever since rationalist ideas started capturing large portions of my industry (programming), I’ve felt kind of foolish reading the sci-fi I used to be a big fan of. I feel like reading the perspective in your post actually went a ways towards repairing my relationship with that fiction.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

it's good to know that e.g. our good friend Charlie has the correct perspective on these bozos

[–] JohnBierce@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I thought about bringing his ideas up more as examples (definitely seen him pop in Sneerclub a few times), but I've got no idea if he would want to be even more prominent in this conversation than he already is. And the post was already more than long enough.

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