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[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If their post is short, accuse them of not engaging properly.

If their post is long, accuse them of gish gallop.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did i say they didnt engage properly? Lol what are you even saying

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, because their post wasn't short.

[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Said no one. Except you. You either know what a Gish gallop is, or you don't. A long comment is not necessarily a Gish gallop. In this case the charge is entirely accurate.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh spare me, we both know full well that there was no long comment they could have posted that wouldn't have been called gish gallop.

[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As if it's somehow impossible to make a long comment in support of a single argument? As if Gish galloping comments don't actually exist? Do I follow your logic properly? What part about this do I not understand?

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Accusations of gish gallop are almost always just a bad faith way of dismissing an argument without bothering to address it.

[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What argument? 20+ arguments were made. Which one am I meant to address?

If I focus on one you'll jump on me for not addressing the 19 others, which is why it's a bullshit tactic.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Their argument was that so called Western socialists are mostly just Western chauvinists who make their determination on what movements are "real socialists" based on how closely they align, racially and culturally, to the West.

There, that's their argument.