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How do people find good information on the internet these days? (programming.dev)

submitted 1 year ago by catch22@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world

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It used to be that you would do a search on a relevant subject and get blog posts, forums posts, and maybe a couple of relevant companies offering the product or service. (And if you wanted more information on said company you could give them a call and actually talk to a real person about said service) You could even trust amazon and yelp reviews. Now searches have been completely taken over by Forbes top 10 lists, random affiliate link click through aggregators that copy and paste each others work, review factories that will kill your competitors and boost your product stars, ect.... It seems like the internet has gotten soooo much harder to use, just because you have to wade through all the bullshit. It's no wonder people switch to reddit and lemmy style sites, in a way it mirrors a little what kind of information you used to be able to garner from the internet in it's early days. What do people do these days to find genuine information about products or services?

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[–] somedude@lemmy.ninja 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ve switched over to a paid search engine, kagi.com. There are no ads and the results are better than DDG.

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ridiculous pricing (unless you pick the Ultimate plan for 25 bucks a month you pay per individual searches), the "Why do we need an account" link leads to 404 and "example searches" that totally aren't curated.

Yeah, I'm gonna pass. DDG is great anyway. The only times it doesn't really find what I want, Google doesn't find shit either.

[–] somedude@lemmy.ninja -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you’re not paying for it, you are not the customer, but the product. You most likely fit into the $5 or $10 plan. Here’s the page you’re looking for: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/why-kagi/why-pay-for-search.html

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you’re not paying for it, you are not the customer, but the product.

While that's generally a good way of thinking to stay alert, it's not a dogma. It discredits the whole, vast FOSS ecosystem, most prominently the Linux kernel, or services like Wikipedia that don't sell your data and rely solely on community contributions and donations.

DDG finances itself via non-personalized ads that aren't very annoying. They won't become a trillion dollar company that way but can get by.

[–] somedude@lemmy.ninja 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fair. By similar logic, don’t discredit the whole paid ecosystem, when you’re used to getting something for free. Kagi has no ads, no trackers, and listens to their users. Their search results and feature set is better than DDG.

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

don’t discredit the whole paid ecosystem

You know that I didn't. I explained why I'm not interested in their service, so why do you try to convince me so hard? Do you get provisions or something?

[–] regalia@literature.cafe -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Paying for a search engine is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard lol. DDG is just better and I question what you use to guage better results, especially since you already spent money and are already susceptible to bias.

[–] somedude@lemmy.ninja 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you’re not paying for it, you are the product. Don’t knock it til you try it.

[–] regalia@literature.cafe 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a very black and white view of the world and is not true.

[–] somedude@lemmy.ninja -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What, to try things before you dismiss them as dumb?

[–] regalia@literature.cafe 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a super secret search engine that reads your mind for only $20/mo. You wanna try?

[–] somedude@lemmy.ninja 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sure, if there’s a free trial (Kagi has one). Though if it’s from you, probably not 😉

[–] regalia@literature.cafe 0 points 1 year ago

Feel free to scammed by an account based search engine that won't even work in private browsing