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[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't cite ISIS. But if you claim Muslims are crushing fundamentalism, how are the Wahhabis doing

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re mocked and ostracized in most Muslim countries. They were never that popular to begin with (they had a brief spike due to outrage against the Iraq war) and mainly were inflated by Saudi money, but now that Saudi is going broke they lost a lot of their funding and Muslim governments pressured them to stop doing that. Watch any Arabic news channel and they get picked on by interviewers.

Fundamentalism is a problem worldwide; but surveys show Muslims are less likely than Christians or Jews to support violence against civilians.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, you're just in denial of reality

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m sorry, how many Muslim countries have you been to and experienced? How many Muslims do you follow on social media, and in how many languages? How many sermons have you attended and how many halaqas?

Just because my facts don’t match your bigoted stereotypes doesn’t mean I’m wrong. Who’s really in denial of reality here?

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're a Muslim. I'm not. We have different perspectives.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m not Jewish either but it doesn’t mean I can spout such hateful claims, or argue with actual people in the religion that they support violence and oppression. You’re completely missing the point; I’m trying to correct you from your hurtful overgeneralizing prejudices and you’re pretending this is a matter of perspective.

I give up. I’ll do what the Quran says when ignorant people try to attack you, and say “Peace.”

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't attacked you at all. You've denied basic reality about the prevalence of fundamentalism in the Muslim world. Shit, you tried to say that the only reason that there's protests about a Quran burning is because of the fucking war in Iraq. Ridiculous.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read again what I said more carefully next time. That’s not what I said and you’re strawmanning me.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Then if you didn't disagree with me that there's a high prevalence of fundamentalism in the Islamic world and that non Muslims face rampant discrimination in Muslim countries, I'm not sure what your point even was.