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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There's this thing I notice. If windows asks you to learn something or put up with some BS it's seen as the cost of business, reasonable, or simply not even noticed. If Linux requires you to learn something, like read one article about which distro might work best for you, it's seen as an insurmountable difficulty or an absurd ask.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it's sunk cost bias. I have this trying to use windows or macos, after using linux exclusively for half my life - everything feels foreign and frustrating, with an obnoxious amount of UX patterns you're expected to know in order to find anything. ugh, I could rant for hours on how obtuse macos is (mainly because I have to interact with it for work right now - if you force me to use windows, I'll rant about that too)

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The nice thing about Linux is you can pick a DE that apes whatever OS you're used to so the transition from Windows or Mac to desktop Linux can be very painless.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

dear god if I could just run xmonad and dmenu on windows or mac I'd hate employers that tried to force me to use one or the other so much less.

[–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh my god another xmonad user. You can get almost close with some paid tiling window managers in mac but you can't recreate the managed layouts of xmonad.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yep stuck on Xorg forever gang

[–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Cries in perfectly managed window layouts and reasonable defaults.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

It definitely is ya. I use mac for work and that shit sucks

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every time I've been asked to learn about Windows this year has resulted in "Haha fuck you who do you think you are? The owner of this computer? Eat shit pleb you belong to steve balmer now".

You wouldn't believe the amount of bullshit you have to go through to exorcise Edge. Some people told me "This is to protect the user" so i sent them back a picture of system.32 in the recycle bin.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I quit windows after I spent a few hours trying to get permission to delete a file I knew I didn't need but but windows just refused to allow even admin accounts to touch. Had to dig so deep into windows settings.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had same problem multiple times when I tried Windows. The recommendations I could find on internet were to disable fast startup and boot into live Linux disc.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Ya that's about right. Next step is from that live Linux disc install Linux.

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't use linux because a linux computer is not usable for me. I use mine for blender(works on Linux), Creo(does not work), DCS(no linux support, people say it's hard to get working with wine/proton game things) and Destiny (anti cheat will ban you if you run it through one of the linux game things). Like it or not, "just learn an entire new os and new software for all the things you want to do" is not an option for most people.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

No I'll never deny that. Some things do only work in very specific environments. I'll also never pretend learning is a task with zero effort or that everyone is interested in doing. What bugs me is when people are dishonest about it. Linux is not impossibly difficult to use nor is Windows a sublime user experience with no friction.

Anticheat though ya that's fucked. Hate that. I'll admit I have a Windows partition solely for playing the few games that require it. Though haven't booted it in a year or so.

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Except that's an article we would probably read, unless we're already set in our ways.

[–] torpak@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also the half life of windows knowledge is a lot lower than linux knowledge. Under windows: when you have this problem, click here, click there, find this button, select this option and then it might help, until the next version changes everything. Under linux you find this config file, change this line to that and the fix will likely survive multiple system upgrades and could even work on different distributions.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. Once you spend just a bit of time figuring out how config files work suddenly fixing problems on and maintaining your Linux system is far easier than windows. Not hidden behind layers of bad UI that doesn't work. Just edit the file. Restart the process.