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Why do they keep making new languages (lemmy.stonansh.org)

submitted 1 year ago by lemmy@lemmy.stonansh.org to c/programming@programming.dev

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Why are there so many programming languages? And why are there still being so many made? I would think you would try to perfect what you have instead of making new ones all the time. I understand you need new languages sometimes like quantumcomputing or some newer tech like that. But for pc you would think there would be some kind of universal language. I'm learning java btw. I like programming languages. But was just wondering.

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[–] david 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah but javascript has 473 popular frameworks and counting, and the churn is immense. Your codebase becomes out of date before you've finished writing it.

And the debugging?! I'll try to finish writing this paragraph despite the uncontrollable twitching. Let's just say that javascript is the kind of language that looks at your car with a missing left front wheel and says "let's go", while your IDE whispers "Yes, but maybe just don't turn right. Certainly don't turn right fast, unless you want to of course."

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who said you need to use a framework? vanilla-js.com Yes, debugging is a pain and the language fails in many aspects and I also hate it but I also realized it is the future and everything else will fade away.

[–] ViperB5@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I can't believe I'm about to say this, but if JavaScript is the future, then I'm going to stick to my old fashioned COBOL.

[–] mifuyne@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Gotta admit, I love how cheeky that is.

I'm somewhat on the fence about this. Having the frameworks provide some of the functionalities built-in was pretty nice. Having some of that structural opinion to work off of meant I'm not wasting time just figuring out how to architect the whole thing from scratch. At the same time, I would prefer to stick with vanilla, so it's less overhead and perhaps, the debugging would be more straight-forward. Trying to decipher React's large error messages was irritating at best.

[–] alokir@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah but javascript has 473 popular frameworks and counting, and the churn is immense. Your codebase becomes out of date before you've finished writing it.

That's not really the case anymore, it was back at around 2015 for a few years when nodejs blew up and we realized that JS is capable of much more than we initially thought.

We threw a thousand different things to the wall and a few frameworks stuck. Today the ecosystem is pretty stable, especially of you choose a popular framework like React or Angular.