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I don't see how Lemmy will fill the gap of Reddit - it's resulting in fragmentation (beehaw.org)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by jon_010@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org
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Perhaps I've misunderstood how Lemmy works, but from what I can tell Lemmy is resulting in fragmentation between communities. If I've got this wrong, or browsing Lemmy wrong, please correct me!

I'll try and explain this with an example comparison to Reddit.

As a reddit user I can go to /r/technology and see all posts from any user to the technology subreddit. I can interact with any posts and communicate with anyone on that subreddit.

In Lemmy, I understand that I can browse posts from other instances from Beehaw, for example I could check out /c/technology@slrpnk.net, /c/tech@lemmy.fmhy.ml, or many of the other technology communities from other instances, but I can't just open up /c/technology in Beehaw and have a single view across the technology community. There could be posts I'm interested in on the technology@slrpnk instance but I wouldn't know about it unless I specifically look at it, which adds up to a horrible experience of trying to see the latest tech news and conversation.

This adds up to a huge fragmentation across what was previously a single community.

Have I got this completely wrong?

Do you think this will change over time where one community on a specific instance will gain the market share and all others will evaporate away? And if it does, doesn't that just place us back in the reddit situation?

EDIT: commented a reply here: https://beehaw.org/comment/288898. Thanks for the discussion helping me understand what this is (and isnt!)

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[–] lloram239@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds insanely more resource heavy than just hosting the document itself on one instance somewhere.

It really isn't. Most content out there is already immutable, you don't see people uploading the same Youtube video five times with minor changes or editing their images after the upload, most services don't even allow that for users, at best you can delete and upload a new video.

Furthermore, the blockchain would only contain metadata, not the actual data, so it's automatically thousands of times easier to store than the data itself.

Mirroring that content is a complete separate and optional part of the problem, the important part is having content named in such a way that I can go to a mirror and ask "do you have XYZ" and get an answer that you can trust. With URLs that's impossible, as they can show different content whenever they want.

Also this isn't exactly a new idea, that's how most software development already works these days. A Git repository stores a copy of every little change, and every download retrieves that complete history. What's missing is some infrastructure on top of that that links all the different repositories together into one namespace (GitHub kind of does that internally, but that's of no help for repositories hosted elsewhere).

[–] Trail@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Ok, so what if this blockchain has a metadata link to a video, which is hosted somewhere, and i remove that video from that host? How is that different than just a URL pointing to that video if the blockchain just holds metadata?

I don't understand what you are solving.