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Summary

Key leaders of the “Abandon Harris” movement, which encouraged voters to oppose Kamala Harris due to U.S. support for Israel during the Gaza war, are now expressing unease about Trump’s incoming administration.

Many in the movement, including prominent Muslim leaders, voted for Trump hoping he would bring peace to the Middle East.

However, concerns are growing over his Cabinet picks, such as Mike Huckabee and Tulsi Gabbard, which some see as troubling for Muslim communities.

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I mean, I'm assuming you also hope he doesn't do that because you care about and value the welfare of Palestinians, right?

I get this is your imaginary "i told you so" moment, but can you try not to sound positively giddy about it.

Also, have to do the obvious and point out that the IDF has been armed to the teeth and already exterminating the population of Gaza for over a year now. They shot 5 journalists and 5 doctors yesterday. The homeland of the Palestinians is all but entirely destroyed, comparable to damage on the scale of nuclear weapons. Their homes are gone. Their land is stolen. They are starving to death in droves. The rest are being rounded up and shot en mass. The current administration is arming the IDF, funding the IDF, and preventing the world from intervening to save Palestine.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Meh, of course we wish and hope he doesn't, but everyone knows that he will. He's repeatedly said so.

It's an extremely real and tangible "I told you so" moment for myself and everyone else who repeatedly and vainly told people like this over months that this would happen. Because of course it would. The best possible chance we had was to elect Harris and hope that the rumblings about her being much more forcefully against it in private turned out to be true, because no 3rd party candidate stood a farts chance of winning, and Trump explicitly campaigned on acceleration.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 11 hours ago

Harris campaigned on acceleration too. She's been explicitly in favor of giving Israel whatever they want the entire time. They blocked Palestinians from talking at the DNC. They keep blocking any UN resolutions demanding ceasefire. There are no rumblings. Trump won't need to do anything. Gaza is already destroyed. The genocide has been in full force for over a year. Joe Biden made this genocide. He protected it, sheltered the genociders from intervention. Gave them all the guns and money in the world.

It's an imaginary "I told you so". The people you ranted at before the election were not the Palestinian Americans who refused to vote for Harris. They weren't on Lemmy. I still agree with them. I wouldn't vote for someone who was committing acts of genocide against my family, either. Harm reduction means nothing if my whole family is dead. It means nothing if my culture is gone.

The American government don't give a shit about Palestine. None of them. Republicans, democrats, united in their support of Israel. Palestine is done. It's been done. It's a smoldering pile of ruins full of starving orphan children and IDF soldiers taking pot shots at them for fun. They're murdering journalists and doctors on a daily basis. The damage is so widespread, so thorough that it is incomparable. Whole cities gone. Fully dissapeared. This is present day. This is now. This is all with Biden in power.

No, there is no "I told you so." Kamala was not going.to stop the genocide. She never once gave any suggestion that she would ever withhold support of Israel. She said many times that she would always support Israel no matter what. This is an all American genocide. Republican and Democrat ruling factions are both unequivocally in support of it. You're not paying attention if you genuinely believe otherwise.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

This isn't a wish fulfillment. This is inevitability because Trump isn't going to hold back. Harris might have toed the party line because the Democratic party is just as leashed to AIPAC as the Republicans but at least they were making an attempt to stop Israel. Trump has said that he will give them everything they need to wipe out everyone in Gaza. This isn't about "I told you so" it's about accountability. The moment the country voted Trump in Israel began just ignoring Biden's pleas to end the carnage because they knew that on January 20th they will have all the support they need.