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It’s wonderful to see such a beautiful part of France’s history restored so incredibly well. My heart broke when I saw it on the news and I hope this brings some joy to the wonderful people of Paris and France. It really is a national treasure and I cannot recommend seeing it in person enough!
L'eau peut nous diviser, mais nous sommes frères et sœurs. Vive la France!
With love from England.
It's a nice and fitting bonus that it brought a boon to local/traditional trades like stoneworking. Not that it was a good thing, but they seem to have made the best of a shitty situation 👍
As a native American, fuck the French and every gilded church they build. As their people profited off of the rape of entire nations, they don't deserve nice things in any context. All my SEA homies agree.
What are your thoughts on the Khmer Empire?
Look back far enough and everyone is a monster
Exactly; not to minimize what the French did (it was horrible even by colonial standards, although not quite as brutal as the Belgians) but if we went after every former coloniser like LordGimp does, there'd hardly be anyone left. I've never seen "anti-colonialist" people talk about expelling Arabs from North Africa, or Turks from Turkey — it's directed only at western countries, seemingly completely oblivious to the vast tapestry of warfare and abuse perpetrated by others even while Europeans were still living in mud huts.
Which western country am I going after if I say "free Tibet"?
It's never been about western overexposure or who is culturally dominant in what category, it's about greed. It's ALWAYS been about greed. And 700 million dollars for a monument to slavery, cultural obliteration, and toxic patriarchy is extremely greedy.
It's been years since I've seen or heard anyone say this, but maybe that's just me. In any case, thanks for bringing it up — anything China-related tends to be controversial here.
If we were talking about the 19th century I'd agree wholeheartedly, but I really don't think that fits here. N-D was built centuries before France (or anyone else) had ships capable of making it even a fraction of the way to SE Asia. The word "colony" was something used in a historical context while discussing the Greeks; not a government policy. The same goes for slavery, which was extremely uncommon in Europe at that time (but fairly widely practised in Africa and the Middle East). Slavery was only embraced by Europeans during the age of sail and colonisation.
All that to say, what you're saying is right in its historical context, but this is not at all that historical context.
I don't think there's such a thing as a gilded church.