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The State of Palestine is recognised as a sovereign nation by 146 countries, representing 75 percent of UN members.

None of the G7 countries – Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom or the United States – do.

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[–] LEVI@feddit.org -1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You'll be surprised by how many Arab countries, actually don't recognize Palestine ( with their actions ) ( e.g. Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, Saudi Arabia... And the list goes on )

[–] solo@slrpnk.net 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not too sure what you mean.

According to wiki 146 of the 193 United Nations (UN) member states have recognized the State of Palestine, including the ones you mention:

  • Egypt recognised Palestine 18 November 1988
  • Morocco on 15 November 1988
  • Algeria on 15 November 1988
  • Saudi Arabia 16 November 1988
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They said with their actions.

Like Egypt cooperating with Israel on keeping the border with Gaza closed before Israel invaded.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Recognition just means formally acknowledging that a government exists, it does not imply any sort of cooperation.

For instance, the US recognizes North Korea and Iran but doesn't cooperate with them, quite the opposite.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Allowing a genocide to continue and allowing Israel to invade and occupy that country they formally acknowledge exists, completely removing the government and taking it over as Israeli territory is a hell of a lot more than just refusing to cooperate.

But if all you care about is some performative political bullshit, I guess that's fine. I care about complicity in genocide and the destruction of a nation.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I care about accurately summarizing what the OP is about, and it's about countries that recognize Palestine. It has nothing to do with countries that support or even care the slightest about Palestinians.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But if all you care about is some performative political bullshit, I guess that’s fine.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It sounds like your problem is with the OP, which says 146 countries engage in performative bullshit.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Problem? You apparently didn't read what I wrote, so I'll paste it a third time and I'll even be helpful and bold the part you missed. Twice.

But if all you care about is some performative political bullshit, I guess that’s fine.

And to help you even more, I'll make it super big:

I GUESS THAT'S FINE

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Sorry, I thought you were being sarcastic.

Then we agree. It's fine. Most countries don't consider Palestine to be their problem, so performative bullshit is the most they can muster.

[–] LEVI@feddit.org -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Friend, a lot has happened from 1988, leadership changed, governments overthrown and/or overtaken, plots twisted, laws have been rewritten and other introduced, I'm talking within those countries..

take Algeria for example they recently had their presidential election, their (S)elected president promised them that he'll build 3 hospitals in Gaza in less than 20 days ( he never did, and will never do )

Morocco just like Algeria is having Secret deals with the Israeli government, such as buying their Pegasus spyware

It seems like these governments are just using Palestinian cause to stay in power, they don't care

I'm not talking about recognition that's written on a piece of paper, I'm talking about actions

[–] solo@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

I suppose, one could argue that Arab countries could have applied efficient diplomatic pressure for a two-state solution if they cared enough to resolve this - decades ago. But I have the impression this would be only part of the story.

Another part is related to the West. The bottom line is that the Zionists are given weapons to commit a genocide in ~~Gaza~~ Palestine, and sustain an occupation for over 7 decades. This is related to the fact that Palestine is not recognised as a country by the US, Germany etc. As long as the traditional colonisers don't sign these papers they will keep sending military equipement without repercussions internally or internationally.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago

Making decisions and recognizing a state are fundamentally different things though, right?

Recognition is a very specific thing where a nation formally acknowledges their existence as a state, which also affects their ability to e.g. make diplomatic agreements.

But doing so is totally separate from how you act toward that nation in practice.

Russia, for example, recognises Ukraine as a country (currently), but actively does not respect their right to self-determination or their internationally recognised borders. But it would be wrong to claim that they don't recognise Ukraine, despite that.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

I mean not denying their (our) responsibility, but that's mostly because they're bought and paid for by the US.