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[–] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not demanding products which harm the environment made using methods which harm the environment. Businesses make the choice to produce those things instead of carbon-neutral environmentally friendly products, so they are more at fault than the individual who buys the thing. It's extremely difficult for an individual to be able to uncover the environmental implications of everything you buy and do. The only real solution is to pass laws which properly account for the harmful externalities in the production cost, such as carbon tax. That will steer both businesses and consumers towards more sustainable decisions.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also am demanding similar products, which is why capital has already shifted (and continues to shift) toward green/sustainables.

We don't need laws to provide for externalities of consumption in most markets. Most markets are being changed by consumer demand.

What would be most effective is carbon pricing. Unfortunately, that is a non-starter with most voters as it essentially means price increases across the board (which would actually be more helpful during inflation, but people never see it that way)

[–] Slikkie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I wonder how big that capital shift actually is. Most companies are greenwashing, saying products are sustainable and carbon neutral when surprise, surprise, they are not. As a consumer you can't even trust those products. As a small example you got H&M recently pulling back they Conscious line and lying about recyling clothes that actually ended up in landfills.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah capital doesn't support green washing.

You should dig into it and learn more. It's cool to see the market at work in such a big way.