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[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Omg 800,000 people (presumably mostly young men) signed up for that bullshit? Have we failed so many that they will seek help with the top douchebag himself?

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

According the "hustler's university 4.0" website you can get in for as little as 49USD (which is a steal, when the posted before price is 147USD)

Imagine scamming 8x10^5 for just 50USD each, I mean it's not like a considerable criminal investigation will get started for 50 bucks, but the chinless douche is walking away with 40million, from that scam alone. And I'll bet that there will be special courses with an additional charge, as well as merch and PPV webinars. Safe to say it's not just 40million Tate has scammed kids for.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

It's apparently $50 a month, but based on one recent video from a guy who looked into this, there's apparently a hard sell to "commit" to the program for a year, and if you do commit, it won't let you cancel or refund, because you committed to the program, bro, that's a sacred vow, bro, you can't violate that, bro.

[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Ooph. I guess we can get really dismayed at this, or maybe we should just think that given his infamy it’s only natural he’s able to monetize it, one way or another. So many influencers produce content that is on the face of it of very little value. Granted, not so many are making a career out of promoting the most toxic aspects of (so-called) masculinity. Even Jordan Peterson has redeeming qualities compared to this. Of course that’s a low bar. A low bar that seemingly many men are happy to pass and fork money for in the hopes of bettering themselves.

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't even think it's Andrew Tate specifically and I think that's a big problem.

I'm in my early 30s and grew up being 'the tech generation', adults marvelled at our simple abilities. Now I see 20 something's and even teens and they've surpassed us in every way, not so much in technical skill but they live in social media.

Smart watches, tik toks, face time and yada yada. It seems like a borderline gamble what will tickle their fancy or even what the algorithm will just repeatedly shove down their throat until they 'like it'.

I guess what I'm saying is I think the reliance and love of technology is what pushed a lot of these young guys into listening to this fucking clown as opposed to straight up ideology.

[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I am not sure that technology alone is to blame. But I have been thinking for a while now that recommendation algorithms should be open, scrutinized, and regulated even.

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

It's not technology alone, but what was previously a local ordeal is now spread worldwide and with our ever interesting screen time to the point some people live half their life digitally, it's only getting worse.

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Yes, we have failed far more than that.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There’s very much a vacuum for what healthy masculinity looks like, and shitheads like Tate are filling that void

[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It makes me sad, especially knowing my son is going to face the same propaganda. I just hope to arm him with the knowledge to see past it.

[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Knowledge and unconditional love should do the trick 🤞I have found that the men most prone to this are men with a chronic lack of love and self-esteem.