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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OK anyone that matters. Want to believe slavery is a good thing at alll? You don't matter

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You're missing the point. Some modern Americans continue to benefit from historical slavery. Saying, "No one benefits from slavery," is an attempt to deny that and avoid the moral responsibility that comes with those benefits.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago

Correction: all modern Americans continue to benefit from historical slavery.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The point is you are justifying slavery. You can scream its "virtues" all you want. Until that mindset disappears, and even if it disappears, I'm not changing my stance on it.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm not. I condemn slavery. Like holy shit, can you not assume that much?

The problem with slavery isn't that slavers don't benefit! How can you sit there and say that slavers don't benefit from the transaction? Why, then, would they do it?? Just to be dicks??

You're taking an ideological stance that you don't fully understand and not considering what you are actually saying. The fact that people benefit from it doesn't JUSTIFY it. Nothing can justify treating an intelligent creature as property. But that doesn't mean someone didn't make bank from it. That doesn't mean that people alive today are not still benefiting from the tragedies of the past.

[–] pelican7663@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I could benefit from robbing a bank. That certainly doesn't justify it.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, depends on the bank.

We've got a real failure to communicate here though.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Some men, you just can't reach.