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[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Staying home this election was a vote for Trump. Hope they like it.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (5 children)

At a certain point Democrats are going to have to remember that they can't just rely on the other side being worse. If you don't sell yourself to your voters if you don't give them a reason to vote for you then you're going to keep losing. They act entitled to everyone's votes. Entitlement is a big problem when it comes to Democrats. People didn't respond to them saying it was Hillary's turn. People didn't seem to respond to them saying it was Harris's turn. Democrats don't seem to like democracy. They claim to, but when it comes time to participating democracy they're not big fans.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

At a certain point Democrats are going to have to remember that they can’t just rely on the other side being worse.

If this election didn't wake them the fuck up, then nothing will. I'm not expecting anything to change though. It's going to be the same every election because they refuse to make a meaningful change.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They do what their buyers tell them to, that is no reforms. They tell the same to the other party. Most companies "donate" to both parties. They don't care who wins, they bought both.

[–] scemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Democrats don't seem to like democracy. Voters don't care about democracy. Republicans actually hate democracy.

Why do we follow democracy again? Let's just give Trump endless terms, once and for all.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think voters realize that this isn't a "democracy" in any meaningful sense. What's the point of even voting outside of a swing state? The whole system is a con created so slave masters can stay in power.

[–] scemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That's a cynical take. Thinking the President is the only office worth voting for, is inaccurate. Imagine what Congress can do, if every voter was diligent. The president can do nothing but toe the line, in that case.

Outside of a swing state, you can still vote on local and down-ticket candidates who match your values. You can vote on state propositions, like funding for public transportation.

Civic participation is like getting your voice heard. The more voices we have, the less extreme the country will be.

Sitting on the sidelines watching the country tear itself apart is not really helping anyone, in my opinion.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I don't think we really need to concern ourselves with such trivial things as what the Democrats should do next time.

[–] reliv3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, it works with the Republican campaign, why didn't work for the Democrats campaign? Literally, Trump spent most of his campaign demonizing the other side.

That's what irks me about the "Harris lost because she ran a terrible campaign" argument. The reality is, Trump ran a far worse campaign. In the final months, the dude was up on stage saying stuff that made medical physicians think he was mentally declining. The guy wasn't forming sentences, and he was talking about the size of some dudes dick.

We have all of these people trying to explain Harris's failure without also recognizing the campaign that Trump ran. This is not a genuine way of analyzing the results of this election. The reality is Harris's campaign had some blunders, but the Trump campaign had far more major blunders in comparison; but he still won. I would like to know how that happened...

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

You missed the Crux of what I said. You have to earn their votes. You have to give them what they want. That's what Republican voters want. They want the hatred. Of course that won't work on Democrats or leftists. If it did they'd be Republicans. What appears to be a blunder to one side is a victory to the other. If the Cheney's had stood up there with Trump and praised him Republicans would have loved it, for the other side it made our skin crawl.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, about that ship that you think hasn't sailed yet....

There's not going to be a next election for you, kitties.