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I've often assumed Harris didn't want to insult her boss by going against him, because I got the impression she was planning to give Netanyahu what for once she took over - especially with him escalating things further and further. Did anyone else get that vibe, or was it just wishful thinking on my part?

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 33 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Why do people have this idea that the economy will do better under Trump? Where did this come from?

[–] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Peoples lived experiences under Trump turned out to be better than their current ones under Biden, pretty simple. It's all vibes.

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." -George Carlin

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

But people were freaking the fuck out about the Covid restrictions. Trump opposed them but also made them more necessary for longer. I guess that’s what the average person doesn’t understand.

[–] runiq@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

I've read, oh, a dozen 'pretty simple' explanations that claimed to explain what has happened. All of them had merits.

I don't believe things are 'pretty simple' anymore.

[–] dmajorduckie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago

Generations of propaganda that "Republican = good economy" is my guess.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

I think whats missing from many analyses is the general unhappiness people have with the current system. People are suffering now under establishment politics and they don’t believe that more of the same will improve their lives (citing, justly, at least the past 16 years as an example). They are hungry for something radically different. Trump appeals to that sense of radical change on the right. The democrats have blocked their own left wing alternatives and stuck with running establishment candidates.

I don’t believe the economy will do better under trump. I don’t believe people will do better under trump. He is a fascist and his populism is all based on dangerous ideas and lies. However, I am also terminally online and politically engaged. I can easily imagine how someone less engaged can be duped by his lies. It is therefore essential that the democrats provide an alternative left-wing populist candidate that also promised genuine changes to the economic system. So that these voters have someone to turn to who isn’t trump or the inevitable future trump clones. But they’ll never allow that to happen. It threatens their donor class too much.

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

From propaganda and ignorance.

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 7 points 1 week ago

Trump inherited a great economy from Obama, but ran it into the ground. (His 2018 tax cuts, etc ..) Trump got out just as the consequences of his actions started to happen, just as Biden became president. This left Biden with a crashed economy which he worked hard to improve during his election (the US is considered the best and strongest economy after COVID).

Now, just because it's doing the best, it doesn't mean everyone is in the best shape. So people are just remembering that the economy on the surface looked better during Trump ) because of Obama) and looked worse during Biden (because of Trump) and assumed that the surface was the same underneath.

What will be really interesting is that the economy isn't as solid this time for Trump so he's most likely going to do even more economical damage to the US that will cause it to take even longer to fix for the next president(s).

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

That’s one of the bullshit things republicans have propagandized people about for decades. Wealthy people do better under them, and then generally republicans run some sort of scam that ends up in economic disaster and a bailout.

[–] joker125@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Apparently a multiple time bankrupt "billionaire" businessman knows more about finances than the average person.

This thought process really concerns me. We really are surrounded by some truly ass ignorant people.

At least they will suffer right along with the rest of us.

[–] Blackmist 2 points 1 week ago

Or that Trump cares for the working class?