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Source is in French, pay-walled and talking about the in-coming issues with fat-bikes: https://www.lemonde.fr/m-perso/article/2024/11/09/gros-pneus-et-coups-de-sonnettes-vers-la-suvisation-du-velo_6385307_4497916.html

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[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, isn't that what we literally already say today?

[–] oce@jlai.lu 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not really, for now it is mostly "here's the bike lane", because the street is attributed to cars by default. So this quote is about reversing this mind set.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So what I mean is that cars can only go in car-lanes - you're not allowed to drive on sidewalks, bike lanes, bus lanes and so on.

I may have misunderstood, though.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, I think you're not getting the point, it's about making the default for bikes and pedestrians now, and treating cars as secondary users, that have their smaller delimited special lane.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Could be something lost in translation, or I'm just usually dense today.

Anyway, is this person saying this as a negative? Because I think it's definitely a positive.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He's supporting this change, he's part of the local government developing it. So he's saying that to illustrate the change of mindset.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Tobberone@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

As I get it, it's about shifting the perspective from everything is for cars and pedestrians are an after thought to something like everything is for pedestrians except this particular piece of road where cars may drive. From "car first", to "pedestrian first".