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In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're right. I keep forgetting that people are emotional creatures who don't understand how elections work. Gotta pander to these people by using soft words and stroking their ego.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or, hear me out, don't demonize a whole population because a small majority of their demographic voted bad. One week ago, I would have shared your opinion, but these election results are proof that we really need to figure out political strategies that get support from every demographic, even straight men.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not demonizing a population. That's the point.

The point is that women can't tell the difference between the man that is safe and the man that will rape them. So until you're determined to be safe, is smart to assume you're not safe.

It's the same as saying "people are horrible, but persons are great."

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Men also voted trump. An apt analogy would be: can we blame white people for Trump?

Yes, yes we can.

This is what you said. You said that we can blame white people for Trump. Some would call this "demonizing an entire population because a small majority of their demographic voted bad"

Personally I think it's more accurate to say we can blame conservatives for trump, since being conservative is the biggest indicator that someone voted for him

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

White people are the largest voting block and they (we) turned out in vast majority for Trump. (Not that I voted for him, ofc)

People did this. White people did this. Conservatives did this. You can group it however you like. All are accurate.

I understand it's uncomfortable at first. You feel bad because you identify as white and hearing that the majority of white people sucks kinda hurts. But it's not you. You don't need to worry.

Pattern based generalizations are just part of the language. If I asked you what color the sky is in normal conversation, you'd say blue. You wouldn't dive into a ten minute diatribe about the multitude of possible colors. The reason this doesn't bother you is that you don't identify as a sky.

But if you're white, I'm not going to trust you until I get to know you and figure out if you have empathy. For now, I assume every white guy is a trumper, and I'll be right most of the time.