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The UK has introduced the Tobacco and Vapes Bill, aiming to make it illegal for future generations to buy cigarettes. The bill proposes gradually raising the minimum smoking age, so those born after January 1, 2009, will never be able to purchase tobacco legally.

It also includes restrictions on vape flavors and packaging to prevent youth addiction and bans smoking in certain outdoor spaces, though pub beer gardens are exempt.

Supported by the Labour Party's majority, the legislation seeks to create a “smoke-free U.K.” and combat smoking-related deaths.

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[–] PlasticLove@lemmy.today 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Won’t somebody think of the poor struggling businesses.

Where would society be without those good old death stick sellers who hid decades of research into health risks and marketed to children. Cornerstone of society and they’re trying to ban it? Savages.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

More like prohibition doesn't work

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It'll work for the majority of people. You won't be able to do it out in public.

If you want to get cancer in your own house go ahead.

The truth is they put a huge burden on public services. Mainly the health service but also they create insane amounts of litter.

If vaping is still an option then most people will just do that.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you want to get cancer in your own house go ahead.

I agree with the sentiment of both you and the person I originally applied to. Smoking is a blight and I wish it would go away. I simply don't think prohibition is the way to do it.

Mainly the health service but also they create insane amounts of litter

Vaping also creates an insane amount of litter. I wish vaping would go away just as much as I do cigarettes.

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah vaping will have its time. I bet they're already sitting on evidence that it fucks you up.

Prohibition does work very well for kids though. Most people start young as when you're older you know the issues.

So they are keeping it for people already exposed and trying to stop younger people starting in the first place.

They raised the age to 18 when I turned 16 and it dramatically cut the amount we had access to.

It's not like the old alcohol probation. Plus smoking isn't even fun like drinking. It's just gross and bad for your health. And most people don't drink because of addiction. It's a different kettle of fish.

But they should be doing the same for vaping.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

It’s not a secret. Ask any medical professional and they’ll tell you about popcorn lung. Vaping is worse in many ways. Look, don’t suck non “air” into your lungs. Pollution is bad enough for us. We don’t need to make it worse.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The truth is they put a huge burden on public services.

Do they? If so, you must be in favor of banning smoking anything, right?

they create insane amounts of litter.

Do they? If so, it sounds like there needs to be harsher penalties and greater enforcement for litter laws!

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago
[–] john89@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

Are you stupid? It's not about the "businesses" and their well-being. It's about the effect that black markets have on society.

People are going to get their drugs whether they're legal or not. If you paid attention in history class and reality, you'd know that prohibition and the war on drugs does not solve the issue.