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Why do people say "Marxist-Leninist" since Lenin was a Marxist; therefore, just saying Leninist would include the teachings of Marx, wouldn't it? (lemmygrad.ml)
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[–] felipeforte@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I will ignore everything we've discussed so far and consider you are indeed acting in good faith.

I'm sorry that I mocked you and acted dismissively. At first, I answered your thread without this tone, check my first response to your topic. But after I saw many others arguing similarly, while you and a few others were insisting on it with the same arguments over and over, I completely lost my respect for those who were arguing this.

It reminded of the struggles I had within my previous party, where the leadership there were arguing similar things, that we should abandon the term "Marxism-Leninism" altogether. It got personal, and I could no longer maintain a respectful and professional tone, and I apologize for that.

That being said, please answer this, and I promise I won't disturb you any longer:

What’s your point? What are you trying to accomplish with this discussion? Why do you care so much about this? What difference does it make what you call yourself, why do you want us to agree with you?

[–] SovietReporter@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

What’s your point?

Nothing, I just wanted to put forth my semantics realization and see if there were any counter arguments as to why just calling oneself a Leninist would be any different than calling oneself a Marxist Leninist.

What are you trying to accomplish with this discussion?

Same answer

Why do you care so much about this?

I don’t care that much. I just wanted to hear the reasons that other people had and presented my own. I don’t have any horse in the race.

What difference does it make what you call yourself, why do you want us to agree with you?

People can call themselves whatever they want. I just wanted to discuss if Leninism would be the most semantically correct term, and put forth my reasoning as I explained previously.

These questions honestly feel like a serious interrogation just for a question about word accuracy and semantics.

Edit: That is how conversation works. Someone says an argument and if another person doesn’t agree they say a counter argument. Not agreeing about the usage of one term or thinking that it could be shortened doesn’t mean that someone has a hidden agenda.