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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (15 children)

Holy shit these comments...

Guys, I think you have over-saturated your target forum. Too many on the same site, you gotta tell the higher ups to spread it around more so it's not so obvious.

Edit: Just for folks who may not understand: Harris has to walk a fine rhetorical line before the election. The reality is, if she comes out strongly about Israel/Palestine in any way whatsoever, she will lose. People here can't seem to grasp this fact. Maybe they don't live in the US and understand the political/social climate here? Or perhaps they're just too young?

She will lose, and Trump will give Netanyahu carte blanche to expand his ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people.

I wish I knew how Harris actually feels about the situation, and I believe her reticence to support Israel in the way Biden has is a good sign. But no, I wish I knew what she's going to do; all I know is that it's far better than the only other possible alternative. Anyone who's gonna say 'der how you know that,' is disingenuous as fuck. You know why. I'm not going to explain that shit again.

[–] data_lore@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I understand your point and I agree that harris is in a tough situation figuring biden supports the genocide. However I actually think your take on her needing to walk the line is wrong. Polling actually shows a shift even with dems messaging against Palestine and pretending it all started on Oct 7th. Additionally, if she argued for stopping weapons transfers of offensive weapons, this would also be popular among Americans, a plurality of which support a ceasefire. Just adding context to say that Harris is not pro-palestinian and them banning Palestinians from the DNC has highlighted this. To specify, I will support harris this selection, but just because Trump is a fascist, not because she supports any solution to the conflict.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A plurality of Americans maybe, but I'm not sure about voting Democrats. There are a lot of people on the right who are against Israel for very different reasons and they are not going to vote for Harris. There are a lot of voting Democrats that would choose to sit out if she showed support for Palestine in any way. It's a sad reality, but it is true.

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