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[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think most third party voters just assume Dems want to earn their vote. They don't. They want to earn the vote of undecided people, and republicans that are still somewhat open to another side. It's the whole reason the Dems are as center-right as they are.

They won't see people voting third party and go "Oh my god, we need to get these further-left-than-us voters to agree with us!" They'll go, "We need to pull moderate voters in the swing states that actually dictate our elections over to our side, not only giving us a vote, but negating a vote for Trump too!"

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

History has proven this time and time again. When faced with a loss, the Dems will always look towards the center to gain voters. Because like it or not, the left wing is heavily outnumbered by moderates who are more focused on their own lives than the intricacies of world and domestic politics.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

That's just a bell curve. It's a normal distribution.

In order to see the Dems move policy left, we need a ranked choice voting system of some type where you can actually vote for the candidate you want without throwing it away if they don't win.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Not to mention that moderates can be counted on to actually get off their asses and vote most of the time.

I swear I am convinced at this point that we won't see major progressive initiative in the democratic party until those of us that actually show up find our 20 closest friends and drag them by the hair to register and cast the ballot during the primaries, and then do it again in the general because by then they'll be saying their own guys are shitlibs or whatever excuse to not be accountable to the cause.