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[–] fire86743@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Alright, I can't agree with what you are saying.

It's one thing to say how the Holocaust is linked to a variety of other atrocities committed by fascists and imperialists, but it honestly sounds like you're trying to say that downplaying the Holocaust isn't that bad.

As Communists, we are interested in the truth. This means we have to accept well-documented facts such as the Earth being round, humans originating with evolution, and, in this case, the numbers of Jews killed during the Holocaust and the methods used. And what makes denying this unique is that it's most often done with malicious intent, far more so than saying that the Earth is flat or that the Biblical creation story or similar stories are true.

Although Assad gets our critical support for fighting against imperialism, this does not mean we have to condone everything he's done, including the speech you mentioned.

Our hatred for Zionism and for imperialism does not mean we have to give a single bone to those who downplay or outright deny the Holocaust and other well-documented genocides.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it honestly sounds like you’re trying to say that downplaying the Holocaust isn’t that bad.

Why does it sound like that to you?

Genocide wasn't invented by Hitler. It was "industrial" in a sense that technology from the industrial age was used and that it happened on a large geographic area, so it was different in those ways.

Nazis killed millions of Jews and Slavs (and some others). Turks genocided millions of Armenians by forcing them into the desert. Britain starved millions of Indians. England killed millions of Irish. Europeans killed millions of indigenous people in the Americas and millions more in Africa (Belgium is responsible for some 10 million deaths in Congo alone).

Why single one of those out as the worst?

[–] Comprehensive49@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Westerners only single out the Jewish genocide because 😱 they were white! None of the other genocided peoples are white, so it's OK.