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I didn't click the link because I don't want to give them views. Unlimited WHATABOUTISM replies when you point out the United States is currently dealing with Bird Flu, Listeria, and more covid variants because Americans won't mask, vaccinate, or quarantine.

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[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Only what I've seen on Wikipedia and in news reports when the pandemic hit. I'm no expert on viruses, either. As far as I know, there hasn't been any conclusions about where covid-19 evolved.

I just think western media tries to blame too much on China without much evidence themselves. We could be in a similar situation like the Spanish Flu, which started in Kansas but no one reported it until it hit Spain. China may be the first to report both SARS and covid-19, but may not be the origin of one or both. The virus could have easily started in Vietnam or Cambodia, for example.

[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As far as I know, there hasn't been any conclusions about where covid-19 evolved.

Afaik the direct ancestor hasn’t been found, but every coronavirus from which Covid-19 evolved comes from Southeast Asia. SARS splits off a bit before evolution into Covid-19 so the one can’t be descended from the other.

That’s my understanding at least. Vietnam, Cambodia, anywhere in that region I’m willing to accept, but beyond that I think you need lab leak to make the theory work. Fort Detrick I’m not opposed to but there are mountains of evidence pointing to natural origins and calling into question not just lab leak from China, but lab leak in general, so I’m more inclined towards natural origins.

Looking into this more rn it seems another reason China was identified as the origin point is because initially that was where we found COVID’s closest known relative - in Yunnan specifically. However it seems that even closer relatives have now been found in Laos. Still not a direct ancestor, but you might be right that Covid didn’t originate in China itself.