It does't matter if educated westeners think Russia is right: that's not what's being discussed. Unless you think the opinions of white westeners like Chomsky override the actual position of poorer countries? "Oh, Chomsky agrees with Russia? Sorry Botswana, you have to also support Russia now, Chomsky said so. Better fire your UN ambassador, they forgot to ask Chomsky what he thought, before voting to condemn Russia".

I haven't heard anything so patronizing and colonoalistic in a long time.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is that why they keep codemning Russia in various UN resolutions? The numbers speak for themselves.

Except they're not doing that, the global majority countries are at best abstaining. And the only reason they're doing that is not to piss off the US further. Go look up where most people in the world actually live.

It does’t matter if educated westeners think Russia is right: that’s not what’s being discussed.

What educated westerners think matches what people living outside the west think.

I haven’t heard anything so patronizing and colonoalistic in a long time.

That's because all you've got is a straw man that has nothing to do with what I was saying. What was actually said to you is that even educated people in the west understand what the rest of the world understands. You just flipped that around because you're intellectually dishonest.

[–] sweng@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What educated westerners think matches what people living outside the west think.

Wow, just wow. So we don't actually need to ask e.g indiginous people of their opinions, it's enough to ask "educated westeners". Which century are we living in?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Wow, just wow. So we don’t actually need to ask e.g indiginous people of their opinions, it’s enough to ask “educated westeners”. Which century are we living in?

Really need to work on your reading comprehension there. This is frankly embarrassing. Let me try using simpler language that you might have a hope of understanding.

The people in the global south, e.g. indigenous people, have opinions that are entirely independent of what ignoramuses in the west think. Their majority opinion aligns with Russia.

However, a handful of educated westerners are able to reach this same understanding that the rest of the world has instead of just guzzling propaganda the way people such as yourself do.

Let me know if you're still struggling with this and need me to chew it up for you a bit more.

[–] sweng@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why are you bringing up westeners at all, as if that somehow strengthens the point? It reveals your inner biases. "The opinions of the south is not enough, I have to bring in westeners to give my argument some weight".

Sometimes peple reveal more than they intended when they write.

Their majority opinion aligns with Russia.

You keep repeating that, but the data does not support it.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

I'm bringing up westerners to illustrate that this position isn't controversial for anybody who has a clue. Since people in the west have been the primary subjects of western propaganda about the conflict, it's remarkable that there are people in the west who are able to see past that.

Sometimes peple reveal more than they intended when they write.

You certainly are doing that here.

You keep repeating that, but the data does not support it.

It does, but it's obvious that you'll never acknowledge that.