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How do you make someone understand that being drafted by force and ordered to invade another country is not a good thing? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 3 months ago by index@sh.itjust.works to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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[–] Skua@kbin.earth 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

OP, nobody in that thread yesterday was saying it was a good thing. When a country gets invaded, your responses are always going to be a matter of lesser evils. Apologies for Godwin's-Law-ing this off the bat, but it wasn't great that the Allies drafted hundreds of thousands of people and invaded Nazi Germany. It was still better than every other option.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Godwin's law itself always confused me. Of course comparisons with nazi Germany are overused, but it's literally only 80 years ago. The fact that it could happen such a short time ago means that many of the same dangers, same lessons learned are very likely still completely applicable today. The human behaviors that led to Nazi Germany are still there, in/outgroup thinking, fear of foreigners/others, etc etc etc

So yeah I don't think "Godwin's law" existing as a concept should stop valid comparisons.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't! It's just a comment on how overused the comparisons are on the internet. To quote Godwin himself:

Although deliberately framed as if it were a law of nature or of mathematics, its purpose has always been rhetorical and pedagogical: I wanted folks who glibly compared someone else to Hitler to think a bit harder about the Holocaust.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Right, the point is whether a comparison is really valid and/or if something else would be more appropriate, not that they should never be used