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So Israel break international law and then Starmer asks Iran to just suck it up, saying it will put the ceasefire in jeopardy, ignoring the fact that Israel just assassinated the lead negotiator. What in the bloody fuck?

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[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 months ago (46 children)

I'm struggling to understand what you think he should have said.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 10 points 3 months ago (45 children)

"Hello Mister President, I'm calling to offer you the support of our nation. You're the victim of an international crime and that's not okay under any circumstances, the United Kingdom will ensure justice is served via the courts. We want you to know on record that we condemn the continued international crimes and war crimes that Israel continues to perpetrate."

[–] Streamwave -5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The Islamic Regime in Tehran should be toppled at the earliest possible opportunity.

They are enemies of Britain and we do not support them in anything.

The Regime in Tehran should be undermined, opposed, attacked wherever possible.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The Islamic Regime in Tehran should be toppled at the earliest possible opportunity.

Let's topple Nazi regime in Tel-Aviv first, before we lecture Iran, shall we?

[–] Streamwave -5 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

By "antisemitism" you mean opposing Nazi regime commiting genocide?

[–] Streamwave -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, I mean comparing the State of Israel to the Nazis.

The World Jewish Congress link explains why that’s antisemitic. You should read it so you can work on overcoming your own bigotries.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Streamwave 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You realise that cartoon came from a far-right Neo-Nazi forum, right?

And you realise what that does to this conversation?

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

You realise that you are implying that the commander of Ghetto Uprising, Marek Edelman, is a Nazi, right?

You also realise that number of holocaust survivors directly compare Israel regime to the nazis and genocide of Palestinians under Nazi Israeli government to their own suffering under Nazi German government?

Any alleged wrongdoings on Israel’s part

"alleged wrongdoings" when there's video evidence

no equivalence between [potential Israeli human rights abuses] and the denial of paid work, Jew-baiting, herding into ghettos, incarceration, disease and starvation

"potential human rights abuses"

incarceration, disease and starvation is literally ongoing because of israel's actions

The Israeli–Palestinian conflict is a territorial and political one

attempted genocide is just a territorial and political issue?

 

the best case scenario here is that this was just a really clumsy appeal to authority on your behalf

[–] Mrkawfee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Iran hasn't done anything to us. This is bizarre war mongering.

[–] Streamwave -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, they’re a hostile power collaborating with our enemies including Russia and China. The drones used by Russia are purchased from Iran. They are intent on a campaign of genocide against our allies in Israel and have become a destabilising force across the wider Middle East, causing Lebanon and Yemen to become failed states.

This juvenile self-loathing anti-Westernism is honestly so boring at this point.

[–] Mrkawfee 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The only state you listed committing genocide is Israel which has caused nothing but instability in the Middle East since its founding, including the problems in Lebanon which, if you knew your history, was catalysed by Palestinian refugees fleeing the Nakba and Black September as well as the 1982 Israel invasion, the massacres at Sabra and Shatila and subsequent occupation of the South.

Since when is China our enemy? Your right wing stereotypes lack nuance.

The only state you listed committing genocide is Israel

russia

china

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