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[–] flamingos 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Giving money to millionaires is far from left wing.

  1. It actually is. Universalism is the ultimate left-wing principle, and means testing is in direct opposition of that. The NHS doesn't charge you when it thinks you can afford to pay for it. Don't like giving the rich money? Just tax them more, you'll get it back.
  2. We're not talking about millionaires here, only those that don't qualify for Pension Credit, which you only have to earn over a little over £870 a month to not qualify for. We're not talking about well off people here.
[–] HumanPenguin 2 points 3 months ago

Fair point. Not the one being argued By OP. But a better argument to make.

[–] echodot 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We're talking about someone who's retired though earning 875 a month. If you're retired and you're earning money then that must be coming from something you own a business or some sort of asset.

It's not a huge amount of money I know but they must have other assets to be able to get any kind of income that isn't a pension.

[–] HumanPenguin 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Privrate pension is included.

And it makes no difference where the money comes from. It is all your income. So everything you have to live off.

[–] echodot 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right but this is a fund explicitly intended for people who don't have a lot of money. If you've got a private pension you've got money.

The whole point is so that you don't start to suffer from surprise expenses like large heating bills because the weather suddenly gets very cold. You're not supposed to be trying to live off that payment.

It's daft that it isn't means tested, my grandmother for example when she died had over 2 million pounds in the bank and yet she used to get cold weather allowance.

There are two arguments to have here, one is whether or not it should be means tested, and the other is what the limit should be.

[–] HumanPenguin 1 points 3 months ago

Utter a total rubbish.

If you have a private pension, you have had a job at some point.

If that pension is paying less the 900 a month, you have put very little into it.

Stop being so darn short sighted.