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Even before President Joe Biden’s long-speculated withdrawal from the 2024 presidential race, allies of former President Donald Trump floated the possibility of suing to block Democrats from having anyone other than Biden on the ballot in November

But election administration and legal experts said the timing of Biden’s exit on Sunday makes it unlikely that any Republican ballot access challenges will succeed, with some calling the idea “ridiculous” and “frivolous.” Democrats are on safe legal ground as they identify a new standard-bearer, they say, because the party hasn’t officially chosen its nominee. That typically occurs with a vote of delegates at the party’s convention. 

It’s ridiculous for people to talk about ‘replacing Biden.’ He hasn’t been nominated yet,” said Richard Winger, a leading expert on state ballot access laws and the longtime editor of the “Ballot Access News” newsletter.

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[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

AOC showed a progressive can win in an area that was +45% for Biden in 2020. I don't know how many conclusions you can draw about a national run from that.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

She wins because she represents the people in her district well and understands them on an intrinsic level. She is them.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's precisely the point I'm making. Remember this is in the context of Derpy saying the Greens and AOC would win nationally if there were RCV.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How do you propose achieving RCV without taking over the 2 major parties through their primaries? Honest question. Voting for 3rd parties in the general isn't achieving that goal. Not voting only tells the majors parties and incumbents you don't have an opinion they have to listen to because one of them will still win without it. You're never going to get a watershed shift to the left by focusing only on the presidential race with a third party. Bernie's Democratic party primary campaigns did more for the left than 3rd parties have done in the last 50 years (no 3rd party presidential candidate since Wallace in 68 has received a single electoral vote) by getting more progressives to run in Democratic primaries.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I was only commenting on the idea that with RCV, AOC and the Greens would win the Presidency this year. I think RCV is a good idea. I don't know how to achieve it. The nice thing about it is that states and municipalities that adopt it don't put themselves at any kind of disadvantage, so it doesn't have to happen all at once.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

👍I would absolutely love if we had RCV nationwide. Also compulsory voting, mail-in ballot as standard nationwide, a mandatory "none of the above" option for every elected office, and a requirement that an actual majority of eligible voters is required to win the race (which should be possible through the combination of RCV and compulsory voting). But that takes either a Constitutional amendment or a coordinated and prolonged effort within each state to take over the legislatures.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Wow it's too bad I only mentioned AOC and nobody else ...

We have progressives from multiple states now than we did 10 years ago, and their success should motivate more progressives in more states to run in their local primaries. Change takes time and consistent effort. Primary turnout sucks so we get what was chosen for us by a few if we don't show up.