The truth is, you didn't need to convince me. I think Biden is a monster. The meme is a set of jokes written in the voice of a mainstream American political pundit, not a genuine reflection of my personal attitudes.

My personal attitudes are that every US president is a war criminal, and Biden, Bush, Cheney, and Blinken should be hauled off to the international criminal court.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Dude fuck off, I'm sorry but there is no viable "tell Israel to get fucked" candidate. Biden isn't bombing Gaza personally, the US military isn't bombing Gaza. The GOP has showed they staunchly want to see it escalate and wipe Gaza off the map completely, this is a holy proxy war for them. Israel and its genocide has overwhelming support in US politics. None of this makes it right, but it does make it not a relevant issue in this presidential race.

You don't pick a candidate that shares every belief and opinion as you. You vote for the candidate which will do the least harm and the most good and only the frontrunners count as candidates and you know it.

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's nice to see that some people will morally compromise for "just a little genocide", either enacted or enabled (which is functionally the exact same). Must be so convenient and freeing to be so absent the weight of a conscience.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It must be so freeing to live a life so simple and ignorant that you think your little world can be zero harm and morally perfect while living a lifestyle that would be remotely sustainable for the world. The world is a big and scary place and a democracy is made up of a myriad of perspectives on the world. We all do the best we can with the choices we have. To pretend that we can accomplish anything by refusing to participate in an imperfect system is absurd fantasy.

By all means protest, organize etc toward noble goals. But don't act like "both candidates bad, myeh" is a real stance.

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If both candidates support genocide then my moral line in the sand is crossed, no reasonable person who's against genocide can vote for either. But if genocide is on your list of ok things, then I'm sure it's a very complicated issue for you.

Don't worry, your mother and I will teach you about the basics about morality when you're an adult.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is pretty fundamental trolley problem stuff. If one choice kills 10 million and the other choice kills 5 million but protects the other 5 million, you refusing to participate entirely isn't a noble stand, it's saying you don't give a shit about the other 5 million.

I care too much about these vulnerable people to help these other vulnerable people while not actually helping the other vulnerable people is just being an idiot.