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[–] Cowbob45@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yes but not everyone lives in a flatland like the dutch do, I believe I could fully transition to a bicycle if cars weren't the top priority on my city, but I know many friends that live in parts of the city that are basically mountains.

[–] karce@wizanons.dev 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ebikes are definitely the answer. Much easier to ride up hills and very accessible for regular people to start riding. Plus they are significantly cheaper than cars when you account for insurance and registration and maintenance, etc.

[–] Deviance@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

I live in a hilly area and got an e-bike exactly for some of these monsters. I love it. Makes me feel like a kid again. I'm not out of shape by any means but I'm 60 lbs heavier then I was and it's just not feasible unless I train for that purpose which I'm not trying to do. I just want to enjoy my bike ride at a leisurely pace.

Now my biggest issue is where I live isn't exactly bicycle friendly. Sucks when you can't really move to the side for cars to pass and when the sidewalks are all skinny and uneven.

Additionally all the cars are just noisy as shit. I can't even enjoy the ride unless I take side roads which is impossible to always do to get where I want to go.

Lastly, a lot parks around here only allow bicycles on the road and not on paved paths.

Pisses me off. Like where am I supposed to go? I just want to ride my bike around from destination to destination and enjoy nature and seeing people out and about.

[–] hex@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah, when you bring the price thing in to it you could buy a really nice new ebikes every year for the average cost of keeping a car legal and on the road.

[–] hex@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

There are plenty of people who bike in Seattle. Ebikes make it achievable for most people. Also, there are tons of cities that are flat. Why isn't Austin or LA as bike friendly as Amsterdam or the Hague? Hills aren't the problem.

[–] chickpeaze@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ebikes have really helped flatten things out in my area. I see plenty of couples in their 70s and 80s tooling around.

However they're not cheap, and I think there should be tax incentives for buying them.

[–] sam@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Canada I've seen some places advertising a 500$ rebate for ebikes.

[–] RehRomano@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

In BC it's up to $1400 scaling with income!

[–] packadal@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I completely agree with the incentive, and in some countries there are.

For instance in France, there are government helps for buying ebikes.

[–] mustyOrange@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Id say the car-centric city design is a huge factor as well. At least in the US, most large cities had electric trains, and we tore it down for parking lots. Fixing that problem would be incredibly daunting.

Id say a good step would be to have high speed rails that go between major cities, coupled with bringing some of those electric trolleys back. As a Michigander, I think a good line would be Detroit -> stops along I96 -> Grand Rapids -> Benton Harbor -> More stops along 131/I94 -> Chicago.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

That's why bikes have gears. You should be able to go up any reasonable hill with a bike that has more than one gear.

E-bikes are another option, but not a necessity.