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The original was posted on /r/singularity by /u/Theodora527 on 2024-01-11 22:58:06+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/singularity by /u/TotalLingonberry2958 on 2024-01-11 22:40:25+00:00.


I hear a lot of people talking about how great AGI will be, but chances are, if AGI pans out like you think it will, you’ll be out of a job. Most conceptions of AGI are artificial intelligence that is greater than human intelligence and can outperform humans in most respects, and is generally cheaper to use than human labor. So, hypothetically, when AGI replaces your job and you have no source of income, what will motivate the people with resources to pay your welfare? There are a lot of you, so it won’t be cheap, even with an AGI-enhanced infrastructure - so I’m curious, what will make the AI-owners willing to give up a massive percentage of their wealth, especially when they’re competing with each other?

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The original was posted on /r/singularity by /u/Lucky_Strike-85 on 2024-01-11 21:48:00+00:00.


I feel like if jobs are lost and the worker economy is upended, well, so be it. We're all gonna have to adjust, the rules will have to be re-written, and AI will have to pick up slack. |

I'm more interested in goods, services, and basic necessities becoming less scarce and cost deflating.

I wanna see healthcare cost decrease by 100x or 1000x (it should be universal anyway), and I wanna see food and housing decrease by 1000x or 10,000x.

Because the 2020s are a dystopia in the West. And, as a millennial, I'll go further and say we've been edging toward an unaffordability crisis since WALL STREET murdered the economy in 2008 for their own benefits.

Deflation will be a great thing... if we're all still working, GREAT. I'm ready. I just want a more humane, more accessible, more affordable, and more sustainable world.

Chime in with what you wanna see.

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The original was posted on /r/singularity by /u/VirtualBelsazar on 2024-01-11 21:43:43+00:00.


Attendees also got a copy of his new book the singularity is nearer.

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The original was posted on /r/singularity by /u/ninjasaid13 on 2024-01-11 21:26:06+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/singularity by /u/Dr_Singularity on 2024-01-11 20:25:05+00:00.

Original Title: Thin film reveals origins of pre-superconducting phase - RIKEN physicists have found an ideal platform for exploring the behavior of electrons in a material as it approaches superconductivity. This could help to develop new superconductors that operate at room temp

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The original was posted on /r/singularity by /u/Anenome5 on 2024-01-11 08:36:08+00:00.


Too many people think X number of jobs that exist now in the economy is all that's available, they then realize automation can easily do 3X and conclude that humans will be out of a job entirely.

This is incorrect because the amount of work that CAN be done productively is closer to 1 billion X than to 3X, so human beings will always be able to find work using automation to do productive labor.

The reason this is true is because human desire for want fulfillment is infinite.

You can always live at a higher standard of living, this is why this is true. You can always imagine something that might make your life a little better. And the future will continue to invent things that make it even better that you will want as well. You probably would eat lobster more often if you could, for instance. What about organic Wagyu, that's a rare treat. You can't have a massage as often as you'd like. Or this or that or the other thing. You want more life, you want more family, etc., etc., whatever it is. You can always want more, and people do. Since the industrial revolution, as wages have risen dramatically, people have always chosen to live at a higher standard of living than work less.

So how do we obtain income in an automation economy where AI and androids can work better than we can?

By owning the robots that work for us. Why? Because robots WILL be creating value, and that value will flow to the owner of that robot.

But you say, won't rich people try to capture all that value through buying many robots?

Yes, but return back to work being effectively infinite, and that work is niche and requires special knowledge on the part of the owner of the robot.

Example: if you're a CPA, sure you can hire as many robots and AI as you want to do a million books of accounting, whatever. But how will you certify results with your license on the line? You may be able to automate the work, but you still have to certify the results yourself. Robots can and do make mistakes, your job will be to catch those mistakes and put your stamp of credibility on the outcome.

If you're a doctor, you will begin using AI to help you diagnose symptoms and turn your attention to relevant medical papers and rare syndromes you didn't recall, resulting in much better outcomes for patients. But when it comes to prescribing meds and choosing a course of treatment, you're the final word on that. You will have to use your judgment and wisdom, as trained in that specialty, and that's not something a rich person can replace.

Even if a rich person wants to create a factory, he might replace a division of workers with robots, but he needs a man on site who both knows the specialty and the machines. The tricks of the trade are not captured by the theoreticals, they are captured by the doing, by labor.

People began to view automation as a labor saving device, this has misled people into thinking automation will destroy jobs. Economically speaking, automation is a labor multiplying device that extends the productivity of a single person, and androids and AI will do the same to a much greater degree now in every field.

If you want to know why the USA has some of the best incomes in the world, it's because of the capital brought to bear on production in combination with those workers. Poor wages exist primarily in places without much capital invested to work with. AI and robots will extend this process, leading to greater productivity per worker and thus much greater income as well.

And by this I mean income in terms of access to goods. We are likely to see price deflation along with expanding automation. There are two ways for your income to double, either your wages double or the cost of living halves, etc.

The ideal economy is one where we do no physical labor at all yet get to consume everything we could possibly want. That is a future being brought much closer by the coming automation revolution. The rich will own many robots, the poor will own fewer, but both will live much better than we do.

And no, we will never need UBI or anything like it.

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The original was posted on /r/singularity by /u/Izzhov on 2024-01-11 18:52:29+00:00.


I posed this question to GPT-4 today:

"Let A and B be two real numbers with A < B. Let C be the largest power of 10 that is less than or equal to B – A. Let A’ be the largest multiple of C that is less than or equal to A, and B’ be the largest multiple of C that is greater than or equal to B. What is the maximum possible value of (B’ – A’)/C?"

It could not for the life of it give me the correct answer, no matter how many times I kept pointing out the flaws in its logic. What's your "simple math proof AGI" prediction? What do you think is currently missing from GPT-4 that it needs in order to be able to solve these kinds of problems? Once we get "simple math proof AGI," how far do you think we'll be from bona fide AGI?

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The original was posted on /r/singularity by /u/rya794 on 2024-01-11 18:01:42+00:00.


During the Altman interview on Unconfused, Bill slid in a quick comment about being blown away by a recent demo. From the context of the comment, it seems like the demo was recent, it could have even been during Sam’s visit to record the podcast.

I thought this was interesting, because just a few months ago, Bill said that he believed LLMs had plateaued.

Did anyone else catch this or have a better sense of what “demo” Bill was referring to? (It was clearly not the original GPT demo)

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The original was posted on /r/singularity by /u/Yogurt789 on 2024-01-11 12:33:03+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/singularity by /u/ScopedFlipFlop on 2024-01-11 12:10:23+00:00.


I think it seems like an incredible example of human nature. Whilst it would have been so easy to monetise GPT-3.5 (and previous models) in the same way that GPT-4 was monetised, OpenAI decided not to.

I believe this has set a precedent, enabling services like Google Bard to be free, and potentially other open-source models.

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The original was posted on /r/singularity by /u/FreemanGgg414 on 2024-01-11 16:36:50+00:00.


Nano this, nano that, connectome, induction, darpa, obviously the government is way ahead if history is any precedent. They only have the most money.

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The original was posted on /r/singularity by /u/jojow77 on 2024-01-11 10:27:55+00:00.


For better context one is interested in health science and the other is looking at engineering.

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The original was posted on /r/singularity by /u/Worldly_Evidence9113 on 2024-01-11 07:04:48+00:00.

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